DYNA BEADS for tire balancing

[ronniesanders]

10000 miles

I've had dyna beads in both tires and have just a little over 10000 miles on them. I'm about to change the rear tire and will be putting the dyna beads back in. I also ran the tires with no weights when first installed and my bike was pretty smooth with nothing? How ever I wanted to get as much mileage out of them as possible and felt like the dyna beads would help. I still feel that they have helped make the tires last longer and it rides as good as when they were new. I like them and for the cost it's a great deal. If I can get 10000 miles out of every rear tire I'll be happy. Once a year is ok with me. I'm riding a K1200LT.

 

[mmmalmberg]

Not that this thread needs any more replies But I'm with Jon-Lars earlier post.


"Balance your tires correctly in the first place.

This stuff is a poor answer to a non-problem.
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Jon-Lars "

Maybe I'm lucky, but I've just never had a problem with out-of-balance tires. Shops always seem to do a good job, and I've never really experienced anything that seemed like a balance problem in over 35 years of riding. In the pre-tubeless days we used to just find the seam in the tire and put it opposite the valve stem and that was it.

Now I'm not saying there's no possibility the product could work. I don't see how it would, but that doesn't mean it couldn't. I just feel like it's not solving a problem for me, and adds a little bit of weight and a little bit of abrasion that is not really buying me anything. But, to each his own.

 

[de Razendebol]

dyna beats for the Conti TKC 80 twin duro

I just did the change my self after 7300km replaced the REAR Conti TKC 80 Twinduro on my R1200GSA took off the 60gram from the rim and used the beats 3OZ so far no diff, did speed up to 150km just for testing, did the 60km, 80, and 100-120 clicks no dif. in the ride, I guess they do the job.

good luck

 

[20774]

It seemed to work on your GSA...have you had a chance to try it on your /6?

 

[stanley83]

Newbie Results

I recently changed the tires and tubes on my R75/6. I decided to try the Dyna Beads at the same time, ordering 4oz., enough for the Beemer as well as my Vespa P200. They don't recommend them for tires smaller than 10", so the Vespa VBB will have to go on unbalanced.

The new Avons didn't have a painted dot, so I guessed and used the orange sticker as the spot to put by the valve hole. I took a ride up to and back from Max BMW, about 100 miles, mostly highway, and the balance feels fine.

Dyna recommends using an electric engraver to get the beads into the tubes. I don't have one, but I do have an Oster hand massager and it worked just fine.

 

[TomBarnhart]

Motortcycle Consumer News gave them a bad review. Puts them in the same category as Snake Oil. Last issue had a scathing rant from the manufacturer about how good their product was, but they were unable to refute any of the MCN findings.

Conclusion: trust an independent reviewer, not someone who invested their money and refuses to admit they were scammed or the company doing the scamming

 

[kgadley01]

Motortcycle Consumer News gave them a bad review. Puts them in the same category as Snake Oil. Last issue had a scathing rant from the manufacturer about how good their product was, but they were unable to refute any of the MCN findings.

Conclusion: trust an independent reviewer, not someone who invested their money and refuses to admit they were scammed or the company doing the scamming

+1 I've been saying that for years. I don't understand what the big deal is about a couple of weights on your rims. if a little common sense, and lighter fluid are used, its possible to apply and remove weights with no damage to the rim.

 

[rdalland]

If anyone wants to read the article and come to their own conclusions about what the article says, send me a PM and I will send a pdf copy.

PM your email address if you want a copy.

 

[AntonLargiader]

I'd sort of back-burnered the beads issue but it's time to revisit it. Lead weights are NLA from BMW, I can't stand the thought of using tape-a-weights, and the Wurth weights are just as expensive as BMW's were.

So when I get around to it, but soon, I'll be buying some beads. I understand the principle, no problem, and I can probably come up with a way to test them.

 

[beemerguru]

In the last month, I've put them in both the G/S and the KRS. Also have them in the 6 Series. Smooth rides on all and no issues with speed or handling...even the big fat things during "excessive" speed 4 wheel drifts.

Just my experience.

 

[happy wanderer]

I heard an interesting comment from a tire vendor at the MOA rally last weekend. He said that today's tires are so much better than before due to manufacturing and technology improvements which makes balancing a much smaller problem than it used to be. The tires come out pretty well balanced nowadays.

I know of a couple of people that have balanced their alloy rims WITHOUT the tires on them and then simply mount their own tires making sure the tire valve dot is in the right spot and just ride them like that without any further balancing.
No reported problems.

Kinda makes sense that if the tires are made so well now and don't have the anomalies that old tires had making balancing a must, why worry about it? Just balance the rims empty.

 

[kgadley01]

I balance all my own tires. from my experience Metzeler's rarely need much if any weight. on the other hand the last 3 or 4 Avons I've balanced have needed 1/2 to 1 1/2 oz of weight...

 

[From MARS]

I know of a couple of people that have balanced their alloy rims WITHOUT the tires on them and then simply mount their own tires making sure the tire valve dot is in the right spot and just ride them like that without any further balancing.
No reported problems.

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I've heard two different opinions on placement of "the dot". Where does the dot go?

Tom

 

[skiteach]

Valve stem

 

[kantuckid]

I have posted re, my experience with the beads several times prior,but here goes again: the bikes/tires that I have used them on were smooth and the tires lasted just as long as many I read about online,IOW, they work for me.I don't care what your physics book says,or your neighbor, they flat work! Couple years ago I bought a larger bag on a ADVrider group/bulk buy and thus they are really cheap to use and not a lot of trouble to dump in a few either.
While I'm actually not a recruiter for the Sierra Club(eg, I cut down trees!),the environmental issues for lead weights are quite real and the beads easily get past that issue.So, it isn't just about you or me and how we balance our tires, it is an "us" thing! I have encouraged others to google lead weight issues and still some persist in defending their use in spite of the evidence. Subaru and perhaps other vehicle mfg's have made the switch away from lead.Maybe it is time that you did the same?
Now , are there any oil threads to join in?

 

[rad]

. Subaru and perhaps other vehicle mfg's have made the switch away from lead.Maybe it is time that you did the same?
Now , are there any oil threads to join in?

Lead weights are no longer legal to use on cars or M/C wheels in California. There are non lead alternatives available. Me, I'm a bad man, I'm using up my supply of lead weights before I save the world.

 

[tricyclerob]

Jon-Lars,

I first thought they were Voodoo, but I've now been using them for 5-6 years in a number of bikes, tubed and tubeless.

The advantage I see is:

1. no weights to lose, or come off as I have had happen with stick-on weights on cast wheels, and,
2. they continue to balance, even after tire wear which "regular" weights do not.

I see no down side. I don't understand the physics, but they work. At least for me, anyway. I normally stick to traditional methods until something better comes along.
Beads of similar nature have been used in the trucking industry for years. What makes "Dynabeads" different is they are ceramic, and do not wear.
rj

 

[kgadley01]

This may be a silly question, but I just gotta ask... wouldn't BB's do the same thing??? and if not, why not???

 

[tommcgee]

This may be a silly question, but I just gotta ask... wouldn't BB's do the same thing??? and if not, why not???

Naw. Use golf balls.

 

[skiteach]

Naw. Use golf balls.
Won't go thru my valve stems