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Looking for a 4 season jacket
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lkchris
Active member
I wear BMW Airflow year around.
Heated jacket underneath and the rain suit over it in the winter.
Variations rest of the time. The two-piece rain suit (Rainlock 2) works as a wind stop over the vents as well as a rain suit.
I have Gerbing heated pant liner too, but seldom wear it. R1200RT moves wind enough that it's usually not necessary and it is in any event a monkey butt accelerator.
The black Airflow truly reflects sun heat just as BMW claims.
Heated jacket underneath and the rain suit over it in the winter.
Variations rest of the time. The two-piece rain suit (Rainlock 2) works as a wind stop over the vents as well as a rain suit.
I have Gerbing heated pant liner too, but seldom wear it. R1200RT moves wind enough that it's usually not necessary and it is in any event a monkey butt accelerator.
The black Airflow truly reflects sun heat just as BMW claims.
mikegalbicka
Back in the saddle again
Used one on the flea market if interested and it fits. This one might not be 4 season though:
http://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?76670-Aerostich-Darien-Lt-Jacket&p=976589#post976589
DaveinCalgary
New member
Defender GTX
I've been very happy with my Revit Defender GTX jacket and pants. I remove the insulated liner and use a Gerbings liner on cold days. Lots of vents for hot days, totally water proof and lots of armour. Since I have the white with red trims, I could add some sequins and do Halloween as an Elvis impersonator. ( the fat Elvis).
I've been very happy with my Revit Defender GTX jacket and pants. I remove the insulated liner and use a Gerbings liner on cold days. Lots of vents for hot days, totally water proof and lots of armour. Since I have the white with red trims, I could add some sequins and do Halloween as an Elvis impersonator. ( the fat Elvis).
Kristopher
This is my Car!
Olympia makes a really nice jacket for a good price, waterproof, lots of vents. I have the Klim Badlands set up now, very nice. If you're not careful it 's easy to have a closet full of different jacket's acquired over the years. Not that I would know anything about that.
deilenberger
A bozo on the bus
Aerostich Roadcrafter 2 piece. It's my only riding gear. I own 2 - kept my first one as a spare when my daily one is being washed or sent to Aerostich for Velcro replacement. Tried lots of other things - tried saving money - found that Andy Goldfine had the answer I needed, especially since he'll custom size the suits for you, something very very few other vendors will do. Mine has withstood all day rains and I've been warm and comfy in it, except for a bit of water that worked down the back of the collar from my helmet. The next wet day I made sure the collar of the Roadcrafter was tucked up into the helmet. Problem solved.
Summer (up to 100F) - open all the zippers (above 100F close the zippers - more hot air will just make you hotter.) Winter (down to about 25F) - turn up the heated jacket liner from Gerbing. Spring/fall - do whatever makes you comfortable.
Klim looks like nice stuff - but what I've seen is made for someone more svelte then I am and as far as I know they don't do modifications. Price is right around Aerostich pricing so I haven't seen any reason to change. Plus the repair service Rider Warehouse provides is great.
Summer (up to 100F) - open all the zippers (above 100F close the zippers - more hot air will just make you hotter.) Winter (down to about 25F) - turn up the heated jacket liner from Gerbing. Spring/fall - do whatever makes you comfortable.
Klim looks like nice stuff - but what I've seen is made for someone more svelte then I am and as far as I know they don't do modifications. Price is right around Aerostich pricing so I haven't seen any reason to change. Plus the repair service Rider Warehouse provides is great.
Don is spot on re Andy's gang being great at service.
I've got a 1 piece Roadcrafter for commuting to work
(though I've retired now). On/Off in 10 seconds is true.
Custom fit- yes. Excellent workmanship.
Also have a Klim Badlands set. Jacket is well made but a bit quirky. Collar is poor for both adjustability and leaving open while riding (no retainer, flaps on helmet. Easily fixed but should not be needed at this price). Also weird built in cuff things to go over ones thumb- more a nuisance than help. Some owners cut them out. Good pockets but too much "different just to be different" leads to some misses. For example, the worthless "kidney belt" that is not an improvement on more usual methods to prevent low end heat loss- but at least its removable.
The pants have poor vent zipper placement- can't ID and adjust 1 hand by feel while riding- just plain stupid IMO.
Klim needs to do much better rider testing with a wider range of riders. Seem to have "designer knows best" syndrome. IMO there is still no top flight 2 piece waterproof liner less jacket or pants in production by anyone at any price.
IMO there is also no true 4 season, all weather jacket especially if you live in a hot humid summer climate. I switch to my Olympia mesh for July/Aug shorter rides (they have the best consistent quality at their price point mostly because they sell direct and know their market). (Note that mesh is not a good idea for all day riding in extremely hot weather- you will gain too much core heat) I'd call existing Klim and RevIt high end linerless stuff 3 season.
I've got a 1 piece Roadcrafter for commuting to work
(though I've retired now). On/Off in 10 seconds is true.
Custom fit- yes. Excellent workmanship.
Also have a Klim Badlands set. Jacket is well made but a bit quirky. Collar is poor for both adjustability and leaving open while riding (no retainer, flaps on helmet. Easily fixed but should not be needed at this price). Also weird built in cuff things to go over ones thumb- more a nuisance than help. Some owners cut them out. Good pockets but too much "different just to be different" leads to some misses. For example, the worthless "kidney belt" that is not an improvement on more usual methods to prevent low end heat loss- but at least its removable.
The pants have poor vent zipper placement- can't ID and adjust 1 hand by feel while riding- just plain stupid IMO.
Klim needs to do much better rider testing with a wider range of riders. Seem to have "designer knows best" syndrome. IMO there is still no top flight 2 piece waterproof liner less jacket or pants in production by anyone at any price.
IMO there is also no true 4 season, all weather jacket especially if you live in a hot humid summer climate. I switch to my Olympia mesh for July/Aug shorter rides (they have the best consistent quality at their price point mostly because they sell direct and know their market). (Note that mesh is not a good idea for all day riding in extremely hot weather- you will gain too much core heat) I'd call existing Klim and RevIt high end linerless stuff 3 season.
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