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    Any suggestions on Tour companies for a road trip into Mexico? Planning my first trip. Riding a R1200ST so not really looking for hard core off road stuff.
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    You seem to implying that you want to ride your own bike? If not, I highly recommend these guys: http://www.ridethesierra.com/ The area is safe, the riding is great, they provide BMW's (I had the GS) and it's easy to fly to Guadalajara. John and Lynn (the couple that run it) have been doing it for many years and are wonderful hosts.
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    Check out Moto Discovery http://www.motodiscovery.com/ . They have been doing tours in Mexico for many, many years and they do have a couple of road only tours.
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    Talk to the folks at Moto Discovery. I made a trip with them last New Years riding my own bike across the border - very professional and took care of the many details!
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    Definitely find a guide, my experience with Mexican roads tells me a road bike like my RT would NOT be a good fit. Besides the poor quality of the roads they seem to place speed bumps in the middle of the highways far to often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertsonbmw View Post
    Any suggestions on Tour companies for a road trip into Mexico? Planning my first trip. Riding a R1200ST so not really looking for hard core off road stuff.
    You're keeping up with the news, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skibumwi View Post
    Definitely find a guide, my experience with Mexican roads tells me a road bike like my RT would NOT be a good fit. Besides the poor quality of the roads they seem to place speed bumps in the middle of the highways far to often.

    YMMV,
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    I probably have a different perspective, since I live in Mexico. It is a wonderful place for motorcycling. There are lots of winding mountain roads and two lane country roads with minimal traffic. You do have to watch for topes (speed bumps). They are ubiquitous on all but the cuotas (toll roads). However, they are pretty predictable. Any time you pass through a populated area there will be some. Between towns, you don't have to worry about them much. Another hazard on many highways are potholes and missing chunks of pavement. Many roads are in good condition, but not all of them, and some can be so bad that the potholes turn the road into a slalom course. Drivers are courteous and keep to the right except to pass. Note, that only applies to highways, driving in cities is a whole different ball game. One precaution to note on the highways: a left turn signal can mean either the driver is planning to turn left, or they are telling you it is safe to pass. Speaking of passing, there are often two lane highways with wide shoulders where it is the custom to drive half on the shoulder to let following traffic pass. People do this in both directions so the middle of the road is essentially a passing lane. You have to be careful with oncoming traffic that may be halfway over in your lane.

    I am not sure why an RT would be a problem. As far as a guide goes, I guess that is a matter of personal preference. I prefer to explore on my own. GPS maps are good and the highways are pretty well marked. You can get rooms in no-name motels for 500 pesos or less ($27 US at current exchange rates). They don't add ethanol to the gasoline. Stations are pretty widespread but there can be long stretches between them occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwald View Post
    You're keeping up with the news, right?
    What has Charlottesville got to do with Mexico?
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    Cute, but sarcastic, not helpful nor informative.

    Tainted alcohol leading to rape, robbery, physical injuries and other mayhem is national news too.

    USA TODAY just did an extensive expose on the issue, and most of the victims had prior 'experience' with travel or vacationing in "top shelf" resort areas, and admit being unsuspecting of any danger. Ergo, the "I've been visiting Mexico for years and can assure you that there is no danger" rationale doesn't hold up.

    Even the United States State Department recognizes the extent of this issue and has started an official investigation.

    Travel Mexico on a motorcycle if that's your desire, but to pretend there is no criminal risk is "head in the sand" thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwald View Post
    Cute, but sarcastic, not helpful nor informative.

    Tainted alcohol leading to rape, robbery, physical injuries and other mayhem is national news too.

    USA TODAY just did an extensive expose on the issue, and most of the victims had prior 'experience' with travel or vacationing in "top shelf" resort areas, and admit being unsuspecting of any danger. Ergo, the "I've been visiting Mexico for years and can assure you that there is no danger" rationale doesn't hold up.

    Even the United States State Department recognizes the extent of this issue and has started an official investigation.

    Travel Mexico on a motorcycle if that's your desire, but to pretend there is no criminal risk is "head in the sand" thinking.
    Granted my comment was sarcastic. However, I think it is misleading to judge Mexico by the news stories which universally cover only the problems. Is the entire US an unsafe place to visit because there was an outbreak of food poisoning in Chipotle restaurants a couple years ago. If all one knew about the US was the murders in the news, it would appear to be very unsafe.

    I have lived here for 10 years, traveled all over the country, including some areas that the news would suggest are "unsafe" like Ciudad Juarez, the Golden Triangle etc. I have hitch-hiked, walked, taken buses, as well as traveling by truck and motorcycle. The only problem I have encountered is that our truck was broken into once when parked in a remote area in the Barranca del Cobre area.

    Certainly, bad stuff happens in Mexico. It can happen anywhere. But to write off an entire country based on random news stories is limiting your experiences.

    PS. While I don't think the big tourist beaches like Puerto Vallarta and Cancun are particularly dangerous, they are nothing like the rest of Mexico and not a place I would have any interest in spending time, particularly if I only had a short time to visit Mexico.
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    State Department releases additional warnings today, covering many areas of Mexico.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...llings-n795211

    Reporter under government protection slain in Veracruz yesterday (the ninth so far this year). Mexico is now officially the deadliest country for journalists, and may very well be for tourists.

    How you ride a motorcycle has always been a 'risk vs benefit' decision.

    So is where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwald View Post
    You're keeping up with the news, right?
    Yes. Thanks to all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwald View Post
    State Department releases additional warnings today, covering many areas of Mexico.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...llings-n795211

    Reporter under government protection slain in Veracruz yesterday (the ninth so far this year). Mexico is now officially the deadliest country for journalists, and may very well be for tourists.

    How you ride a motorcycle has always been a 'risk vs benefit' decision.

    So is where.
    I get the State Department STEP (Smart Traveler Enrollment Program) emails that that story is based on. Those State Department warnings are extremely conservative. Far be it from me to encourage anyone to do anything that seems risky to them. But I have to say that riding a motorcycle is far riskier behavior than visiting Mexico.
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    If the State Department were to concern themselves with cities in the USA no one would go to Disney Land, the World Series, the Super Bowl etc. Reading the news in Mexico is very misleading and for a selfish purpose. The media employs a "if it bleeds, it reads" method of selling their wares. The last time an American was killed in Mexico is so long ago that I can't remember the details. The last time an American was killed in Phoenix was right after breakfast this morning. Where would you rather be.

    As far as riding an RT in Mexico, I do it 6 trips a year. I have been to Barrancas del Cobre (Copper Canyon) many times, Zacatecas, Mazatlan etc all on an RT. Yes, you must be aware at all times of defects in the road but then I am from Montana and we have frost heaves and potholes as well. The topes (speed bumps) in Mexico are predictable. The cage drivers on the road are way more polite that here in the USA.

    If you believe what you read, don't go. It's as simple as that.

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    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/mexicomap/


    I'll take Phoenix.

    Passing off Mexico (right now) as safe is going to get a naïve person killed - sooner than later.

    While I admire the cultural depth of its history, and even learned to speak the language, Mexico is not what it used to be, and putting more' lipstick on the pig' is deceptive.
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