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Ummm, I don't think you had that anyway. I know no one noticed me as I left either of the two (non-contiguous) days I managed to ride down from my home in Manitowoc. Not that I downed even three beers the whole time, but I have no doubt this was not policed closely.And all I would ask is that whoever comes up with the idea also come up with a workable plan ...
One that would not put people in the beer garden and then back on their bikes
Simple answer for both. Segregated camping areas. This doesn't have to be done 'festival style'. Day pass wearers don't have any reason or allowance to go to the camping areas and the camping areas have no reason or need to be intermingled with the vendor/food/show/etc. areas. But this is just my humble opinion as a guy who has spent only two days total at BMW MOA rallies (and been puzzled after all the years I rallied in cars - TSD rallies, fun rallies, but no camping or drinking rallies like youse guys have) but decades around racing and car stuff. Road America has camping and it sells day passes and I doubt that many manage to stay over without proper credentials (I've never tried, living 20 miles from the track). Security monitors lots of different gates there. More than MOA wants to monitor, but you can limit your access according to how much security you have.One that would not create a safety or a security issue for our attendees
One that would not increase the work load for the already over-burdened volunteers
I am a single data point that was very close to not appearing at all. I figured $35 was a lot for a half day Thursday and I don't want to camp. I managed to free up time to come back a second day on Saturday, but I came very close to not attending at all. Those are the people you're not hearing from because they have no reason to read the thread or the subforum.One that would not hurt the bottom line of the rally, but rather increase it. (And show statistical data to back it up)
Having been in this club for upwards of a month, I thought maybe I was a bit too green.I would ask that those who think they have a great plan for ways to implement this concept to volunteer --- I mean REALLY volunteer --- at a national rally.
I like to think that 22 years of very active BMW CCA membership (Oktoberfest committee chair, chapter president, newsletter editor, board member, driving instructor, etc.) gives me some credibility, along with my 20-odd years in SCCA and IMSA racing. I know how big club events can run and I do not see day passes for your rallies as insurmountable or undesirable. I would have bought two ...Until you have actually walked in these shoes, you cannot truly understand all of the ramifications of your proposal.
Finally, for our OP, the liability waivers are very standard in motorsports clubs and events. I've signed more of them than I can remember. Strictly speaking, in Wisconsin they probably aren't necessary because we have a 'recreational uses' statute that protects the organizers from ordinary liability in almost any activity in which you're having fun. But the national clubs don't like the idea of relying on state law, so they all use them anyway. Just sign the damn thing.