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Won't start-2008 R1200GS
- Thread starter MARTYH
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Hi Marty, I don't know on the starting issue but it will help if the year and model is in the title so I'll add it for you. Good luck. Gary
sailorlite
Member
The symptoms you describe could be caused by a failing fuel pump controller (FPC). The standard method of ruling this in/out is to bypass it to see if the problem persists. It's not too unusual to replace the FPC module with its updated version. By any chance is your '08 still under warranty?
sailorlite
Member
So now the expanded problem is how to get an intermittent no-start fixed at the dealership under warranty.
If you phone them, you will probably find that they're familiar with the symptoms and will suggest how they want you to proceed. Since it's an intermittent problem, they might be concerned that they can't replicate it. At a minimum you will want to make sure your complaint is "on record" in case the warranty expires before it's fixed.
(If it's the FPC, the fix is a simple replacement of an under-$200 part).
If you phone them, you will probably find that they're familiar with the symptoms and will suggest how they want you to proceed. Since it's an intermittent problem, they might be concerned that they can't replicate it. At a minimum you will want to make sure your complaint is "on record" in case the warranty expires before it's fixed.
(If it's the FPC, the fix is a simple replacement of an under-$200 part).
mpmarty
New member
I don't recall any recalls
My 06RT is ridden in the rain as here in Oregon you either ride in the rain or you don't ride much. Reading all the posts about FPC failures last month I pulled the left front tupperware panel and removed my FPC. All looked good with no evidence of water intrusion so I liberally applied dielectric grease to all electrical fittings and sealed the unit with RTV silicone and buttoned it back up. So far so good..
My 06RT is ridden in the rain as here in Oregon you either ride in the rain or you don't ride much. Reading all the posts about FPC failures last month I pulled the left front tupperware panel and removed my FPC. All looked good with no evidence of water intrusion so I liberally applied dielectric grease to all electrical fittings and sealed the unit with RTV silicone and buttoned it back up. So far so good..
sailorlite
Member
Marty - Did the dealer wind up replacing the fuel pump itself or just the controller module (FPC)? Do you have the BMW part number of the piece that was replaced? And, of course, is the bike fixed? Thanks.
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azrtrdr
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The only failure on my BMW m/c's was the f/p controller on a 09 GSA.
The fuel level was also on the fritz.
It failed while I was pulling away from my garage. Dealer picked it up and after 3 days at their shop called and said that it was running. The trouble is that they did not know what they had done to fix it.
I bought it used w/1800 miles and it was an original AZ. bike so there is only a slim chance of it having been ridden in the rain.
I had no faith in it so traded it back for a RT.
With only that and a chaffed wire on my 05 as my only BMW mishaps I'm not sure that I 'm getting the full BMW experience.
Love these bikes !
The fuel level was also on the fritz.
It failed while I was pulling away from my garage. Dealer picked it up and after 3 days at their shop called and said that it was running. The trouble is that they did not know what they had done to fix it.
I bought it used w/1800 miles and it was an original AZ. bike so there is only a slim chance of it having been ridden in the rain.
I had no faith in it so traded it back for a RT.
With only that and a chaffed wire on my 05 as my only BMW mishaps I'm not sure that I 'm getting the full BMW experience.
Love these bikes !
sailorlite
Member
Marty - The -776 part is the controller module (FPC), not the fuel pump itself (despite that abbreviated description).
The pumps are very reliable and failures are very uncommon..
The fpc and design of the well it sits in is plain stupid and they are not reliable. The new (black powder coated) replacement part fixes or improves some of the failure modes of the original, but not all, and totally fails to address the idiotic well design that creates a lot of the problems on RT and GS models. The R model has different well placement so the well issues mostly don't apply to the R.
The fpc and design of the well it sits in is plain stupid and they are not reliable. The new (black powder coated) replacement part fixes or improves some of the failure modes of the original, but not all, and totally fails to address the idiotic well design that creates a lot of the problems on RT and GS models. The R model has different well placement so the well issues mostly don't apply to the R.
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Marty,I bought a new 09 GSA.At 3000 miles it began to start hard first lighting up one cyl and then shortly therafter the second.I sent it to the dealer.New battery,new fuel pump, changed one fuel injector.Dealer dropped it off at the house .Next day same thing.Had to listen to line of BS about water in the gas,should be using injector cleaner etc.There was nothing wrong with the fuel.They replaced the other fuel injector after huge protest.Problem Solved.I really dont like to scream.
Marty,I bought a new 09 GSA.At 3000 miles it began to start hard first lighting up one cyl and then shortly therafter the second.I sent it to the dealer.New battery,new fuel pump, changed one fuel injector.Dealer dropped it off at the house .Next day same thing.Had to listen to line of BS about water in the gas,should be using injector cleaner etc.There was nothing wrong with the fuel.They replaced the other fuel injector after huge protest.Problem Solved.I really dont like to scream.
mpmarty
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I don't understand injectors going bad on a nearly new bike. I've got over fifty thousand miles on 1150 and 1200 RTs and have never used any injector cleaner nor had any problems with injectors. I do buy my gas at Shell, Chevron or Texaco stations and try for ethanol free when I can find it.
Two bad injectors on a very low mileage bike is pretty freak for an R1200. Sounds like something got in the fuel system that didn't belong there, either during asembly or by some odd fuel contaminant. Years ago crud in fuel was really common but today most stuff is pretty clean except for the potential for water accumulating in junk ethanol containing stuff. I haven't plugged a filter, jet or injector in more years than I've got hairs left, unlike in "the good old days"- yeah.....
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