Paris Proposal to Ban Motorcycles

[pglaves]

There is a proposal to ban motorcycles in the City of Paris because of pollution. But not because of exhaust emissions pollution. Rather it is because of noise pollution. Interesting article:
https://www.motorious.com/articles/features-3/paris-ban-motorcycles/

 

[Omega Man]

Those poor enforcement agencies…….terribly overworked…….having to stop an offender and deal with the paperwork.

They can’t stop this- https://tamarathiessen.com/french-letters-dog-poop-france/

It seems less Parisians have motorcycles than dogs. Maybe they can claim a victory over motorcycles.



OM

 

[akbeemer]

I blame Jason Bourne.

 

[BC1100S]

Motorcycles are banned in the Old Town part of Quebec City for the same reason - noise.

 

[stevenrankin]

Noise

Yep, and the jerks with loud pipes will be crying. They have no one to blame but themselves.

We are a minority and not a favored one sadly the even smaller minority in riding ranks gets us marked with the same treatment for behavior they deserve it for. St.

 

[Paul_F]

Motorcycles are banned in the Old Town part of Quebec City for the same reason - noise.

However if you have a room booked at a hotel in the Old Town part of Quebec City, riding a motorcycle is allowed. Been there twice on a bike and never experienced a problem.

 

[radiofun1]

I blame Jason Bourne.

 

[riderr1150gsadv]

Those poor enforcement agencies…….terribly overworked…….having to stop an offender and deal with the paperwork.

They can’t stop this- https://tamarathiessen.com/french-letters-dog-poop-france/

It seems less Parisians have motorcycles than dogs. Maybe they can claim a victory over motorcycles.



OM

When was the last time the French were able to claim any kind of victory??...

 

[Visian]

When was the last time the French were able to claim any kind of victory??...

Read about The Siege of Mecca, the 1979 Uprising at Islam's Holiest Shrine.


also... a popular hashtag these days: #saccageparis

 

[stevenrankin]

History

Also read about the partisans and Free French Armies battles in WWII.

Mocking people in most cases is due to ignorance, wisdom is learning all people are alike and God's children. Wisdom starts by learning the truth. St.

 

[motodan]

So the old "joke"; "How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? Nobody knows, because it's never been tried"... Isn't correct?

 

[Anyname]

I was in Paris in 2019. The noise from small scooters was really annoying during the day. At every traffic light five or ten scooters would filter to the front of the cars and leave at full throttle (Hey, when you're talking 50-150CCs, full throttle is the normal operating procedure). I doubt that many of the scooters had been modified to make more noise, the mufflers had probably just worn out. These machines are mostly basic transportation to be run hard and stored outside.

They may also have loud motorcycles, but there were not many full sized motorcycles around. When it comes to scooters though, there were more than fifty parked on every one block length of most side streets. I have a small scooter that I use almost daily during the summer and the experience in Paris has me looking for a nice quiet electric alternative.

BTW, I always wondered who bought BMWs "executive scooters" and Piaggio MP3s. From a few days of walking around Paris, I would suggest that most of them ended up in European cities. The population of scooters is even more intense in Spain.

 

[Anyname]

So the old "joke"; "How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? Nobody knows, because it's never been tried"... Isn't correct?

I would refer you to WWI. The French did more fighting and dying than any other allied army. The Germans got to within 60 miles of Paris before they were pushed back.

Long before that they were kind enough to lend us weapons, an army and fleet so we could expel our British landlords.

 

[stevenrankin]

Wwii

The French army was just a surprised by the German attack and efficiency as we were when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

A lot of Generals and politicians had their heads somewhere that didn't allow them to see the actions Germany and Japan were taking; this coupled with stereotypes of Japan, ignorance, misinformation, hubris, and a host of other things led to Europe's conquest and our getting knocked for a loop.

French forces fought quite a few battles in Africa that gets little coverage in mainstream American history. We are not taught about "little battles" in "lesser important" countries. That is a shame because a lot of brave men died in those places and many fought just as hard as the men in Normandy or in the air war over Europe.

Taking time to educate oneself beyond grade school history shows many "facts" are not facts at all. One of the traits I abhor about a sizable portion of American people is the looking down on or derision of our fellow men.

Oh yes, this does not make my disgust or anger any less for those who think loud pipes save lives. That is another topic of ignorance, pride and stupid behavior, and really, to go off the track here and to delve into history is not really the place for a motorcycle forum.

If I lived in Paris, I might be cheering from the top of the roof the noise has been taken care of. I am waiting for it to be taken care of here in this country and I fear when it does, a lot of us motorcycle riders will rue the day we didn't put more pressure on the morons who think everyone should hear them coming form a mile away, or everyone should indulge their egos.

The bad habits of a few in a minority makes the whole minority look bad, and the majority will takes steps to ensure they will rule the way they want despite the fairness of their rule. St.

 

[rick601]

I love the French...and fairly loud pipes. Depending on the battle...and the type of bike.

 

[RPGR90s]

I'm all for quieter machinery, but good luck trying to enforce it.

As my WWII Veteran dad (D-Day, Battle of the Bulge) revealed to his sons in his later years, after the Germans were kicked out of Paris, the French were very friendly to American GI's.

 

[Omega Man]

I love the French...and fairly loud pipes. Depending on the battle...and the type of bike.

OM

 

[TEDZEMLICKA]

And when they shut off the loud pipes bike to gas it up its time for the stereo to keep blasting wide open.
LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!!

 

[pglaves]

And when they shut off the loud pipes bike to gas it up its time for the stereo to keep blasting wide open.
LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!!

Indeed! The worst of them are the same persons that screamed "pick me, pick me" just before they were the last kids chosen for the dodge-ball teams during 5th grade recess. Inferiority complexes usually last forever. Remember that if you have kids or grandkids or now, great-grand kids.

 

[kbasa]

It's their city, they can do what they want, I reckon.

I've been to many a race weekend and even I, who absolutely loves the sound of internal combustion, has had more than enough by the end of the day's racing activities.

Here in SF, we used to have these little yellow go cart things that had two strokes in them. The tourists would rent them and crawl around the city at 20mph in them, the 2 stroke screaming the entire way. I've seen them in San Diego, too and they were equally obnoxious. When we were in SD a couple weeks ago, all the little yellow screamers had been replaced by a sort of tandem, roof covered EV thing that looked like a three wheel bike with a roof on it.

They were all over. They were silent and they could maintain actual speeds that kept them from being a rolling blockade on city streets.

Right now, India is working to enforce a replaceable battery standard for EV scooters. When your battery runs out, you head to a battery swap spot and swap in a new one. Quiet. No more unburned two stroke haze. I like it and maybe that's exactly what Paris needs.