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Minnesota Lane Filtering - Coming 7/1/2025!
- Thread starter drneo66
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Good idea! Besides that it's happening, it's legal, how to be a courteous driver, and the speeds involved, what else do you think they should know?
We a section titled "What do car and truck drivers need to know" in this PDF copy.
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r0ckrat
MOA #221145
A few tips on what NOT to do. Things like...
- It might be startling at first, but don't worry - the riders won't hit you. If you keep a look out in your mirrors, you should be ablebto see them coming
- Don't make sudden adjustments when the riders are next to you. If you have a long overhang (pickup bed) the it moves the opposite direction ofbyour front at first, blocking the riders path.
- Don't block riders, it is dangerous and can kill someone. (If tue lawstates, also mention that itvis also illegal, andvwhat the penalty is.)
I’m still not convinced something like a GSA or bagger will actually fit safely between lanes of cars, nor am I convinced straight pipe bike riders are going to be courteous.
This change might be truly beneficial for the few commuting motorcycle riders in the city, but I suspect it’s going to irritate the majority of car drivers who may already have a less than positive opinion of the various motorcycles that share the road with them.
As they say, time will tell …
I’ve been riding for 60 years, but am thinking it might be a good idea to stay out of metro traffic entirely until this gets sorted out.
This change might be truly beneficial for the few commuting motorcycle riders in the city, but I suspect it’s going to irritate the majority of car drivers who may already have a less than positive opinion of the various motorcycles that share the road with them.
As they say, time will tell …
I’ve been riding for 60 years, but am thinking it might be a good idea to stay out of metro traffic entirely until this gets sorted out.
brownie0486
Well-known member
I lane filter with the RT with panniers. Sometimes it's too tight to filter. Make that judgement call "in the moment". If the law allows it, it's up to the rider to figure out if he has the room to filter to the front.
pauls1150
MOA #24991, south of Los Angeles
Anybody who lives in the Los Angeles area pretty much HAS to filter; I do with my 1150RT with the bags on.
Brownie is absolutely right; we can only hope that 4-wheelers in other states get used to it.
Ever notice the correlation (in driving) between law, safety, and courtesy...
Our DMV always puts a little "alcohol advisory" (with a chart showing intake vs. a person's weight to reach a certain B.A.C.) in with registration renewals... other states could put M/C advisories in with theirs.
Brownie is absolutely right; we can only hope that 4-wheelers in other states get used to it.
Ever notice the correlation (in driving) between law, safety, and courtesy...
Our DMV always puts a little "alcohol advisory" (with a chart showing intake vs. a person's weight to reach a certain B.A.C.) in with registration renewals... other states could put M/C advisories in with theirs.
brownie0486
Well-known member
If my bars will make it, the panniers will, the bars being wider than the panniers. Now with the W straight bar being installed that's 3" wider than oem on the 16RS, certainly if the bars fit, the bags will. I can see it's getting tight or too tight for the bars easily enough. Sometimes ya can and sometimes ya can't filter but that's based on cagers positions in the two lanes you're filtering
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They actually did include a ~4x6" leaflet, it was very, very light on any information. It basically stated "lane splitting will be legal on July 1st" and a had a nice picture of a motorcycling (who wasn't filtering/splitting). Hence our education campaign
They actually did include a ~4x6" leaflet, it was very, very light on any information. It basically stated "lane splitting will be legal on July 1st" and a had a nice picture of a motorcycling (who wasn't filtering/splitting). Hence our education campaign conducted by someone that was instructed by someone else that was too embarrassed to ask what Lane Filtering was
FTFY
OM
brownie0486
Well-known member
Correction from post 50. With the bar ends [ heavies at 2" each ] the bar is 35.5". The Hornig mirror extenders [ mandatory unless you want to see nothing but your hands ] put the mirrors at 40" across. The panniers measure just at 40" across as well.
So if the front end will fit between cagers, the panniers aren't a problem when filtering
So if the front end will fit between cagers, the panniers aren't a problem when filtering
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kbasa
Well-known member
On a GSA, if your bars go through, the bags are going through, from personal experience. The hot tip is no side bags and a top case.
Even in rural areas or on those four lanes by the local big box stores, you can slide up front and get away from the cars when the light turns. You should come see how we do it out here. 55 years on bikes, 26 lane sharing here. You can still do whatever you want, just make room for folks filtering through.
Now I feel like I should be running a Lane Splitting for N00bs seminar in Tennessee.
Even in rural areas or on those four lanes by the local big box stores, you can slide up front and get away from the cars when the light turns. You should come see how we do it out here. 55 years on bikes, 26 lane sharing here. You can still do whatever you want, just make room for folks filtering through.
Now I feel like I should be running a Lane Splitting for N00bs seminar in Tennessee.
etiennelau
Active member
Having done it in California legally and in TX illegally, the ones that say it should be outlawed or call it dangerous, well...have you done it and found it unsafe? If you've never done it, then you have nothing to say. It is far safer than sitting in a lane by yourself and getting side swiped because someone does NOT SEE YOU vs being in between 2 cagers and they can't hit you.
kbasa
Well-known member
This guy gets it.
brownie0486
Well-known member
I attended the Hawthorne PD slow speed cone course April of 2018. End of the training I filled up and made ready to get on the highway toward home. By the time I gassed up and got on the highway, within minutes 2 of the motor officers who trained us that day lane split by me so I pulled out and followed them.
Traffic was stop and go with go not being over 10mph. These two motor officers were moving at 35-45mph through lanes of traffic. The law says a motorcyclist should not exceed the speed of surrounding traffic by more than 10 mph. Apparently they were violating the states law concerning splitting lanes. I followed them until they got off perhaps 15 miles down the road and kept filtering through the maze of vehicles for over an hour getting out of the area.
I wasn't all that thrilled with filtering, but I'll lane filter to the front legally here when possible
kbasa
Well-known member
Heh. I split regularly when I worked on Congress Street and One International Place, especially getting onto the old elevated expressway to get onto 93 North.Death Wish in Taxachusetts.
OM
Still alive. Did that for 20 years. So did a lawyer I worked with, who rode in from Nahant on his K1. Gotta pick your place and not hesitate when you're doing it. I rode home to Billerica from Congress at Faneuil Hall with a broken clutch cable on my K75. Split right through the city street traffic and right up onto 93. It was like a slow race trying to time it to the lights once I was off at Wilmington and on 129 to get home.
