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SweetT
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I'm putting together a flat repair kit and I was wondering how many CO2 cartiges I need to carrry with me to inflate a rear tire on my K1200RS to regular pressure.
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BUBBAZANETTI
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i would think 3, maybe 4.......................
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Stuff2c
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none get a pump
PacWestGS
25-MPH NEXT 1OO MILES
BRADFORDBENN
Slowpoke & Proud of It!
Pump, cause no matter how many you carry, you will need one more.
I would take a pump!!
Here is what I did... I went to Wal-Mart and bought the smallest car tire inflator. (About $15), I took all the plastic housing off, cut the plug off and installed a BMW plug on it. Now I have a tire inflator for my bike. It is small enough to fit in a tank bag and should the need arise I plug it into my accessory plug and go... No fumbling around with cartiges..., cheap, easy and will never run out to replace it as long as I have battery power....
Here is what I did... I went to Wal-Mart and bought the smallest car tire inflator. (About $15), I took all the plastic housing off, cut the plug off and installed a BMW plug on it. Now I have a tire inflator for my bike. It is small enough to fit in a tank bag and should the need arise I plug it into my accessory plug and go... No fumbling around with cartiges..., cheap, easy and will never run out to replace it as long as I have battery power....
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Stuff2c
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I bought a pump at a flea market for $3 ripped off the shell, works great! 
gregfeeler
Dances With Sheep
SFDOC said:
Add another vote for the pump. You can by a $12 special at K-Mart, Harbor Freight, etc., strip off the plactic shell, and either put on a BMW style power plug or carry an adapter. Won't be much, if any bigger, than the pile of C02 cartridges you'll need to bring your tire to full pressure.
wanderer
Just passin through
Pump vs. CO2
Interesting thread to me. I did the Wally World pump, bust the case off thing and carried it for a few K.
Maybe this is the point at which I differ, I adjust tire pressure every morning when I tour. For that purpose, the pump became a pain. I got the small CO2 thingy from a bike shop and 25 CO2 catrtriges are about $12 from any Wally World in the country. I carry a small zip bag full of cartriges and the inflator and my tire guage all in about the size of my pump w/hose w/power cord. If I were running Baja I'd probably carry the pump but around the US I like the CO2 better. DEFINATELY a case of YMMV.
To the original thread question, 3 or 4 cartriges will get you to town. The question may become however, did you get the repair right the first time???? If not then it's 3 or 4 cartriges for each attempt. I usually have about a dozen with me. Food for thought.
Interesting thread to me. I did the Wally World pump, bust the case off thing and carried it for a few K.
Maybe this is the point at which I differ, I adjust tire pressure every morning when I tour. For that purpose, the pump became a pain. I got the small CO2 thingy from a bike shop and 25 CO2 catrtriges are about $12 from any Wally World in the country. I carry a small zip bag full of cartriges and the inflator and my tire guage all in about the size of my pump w/hose w/power cord. If I were running Baja I'd probably carry the pump but around the US I like the CO2 better. DEFINATELY a case of YMMV.
To the original thread question, 3 or 4 cartriges will get you to town. The question may become however, did you get the repair right the first time???? If not then it's 3 or 4 cartriges for each attempt. I usually have about a dozen with me. Food for thought.
PacWestGS
25-MPH NEXT 1OO MILES
$0.25 Air
Wanderer and Lee,
I'm curious but if your tires are up on trip why not stop at gas station and top off?
I carry the pump (EZ-gage and Tire Plugger) because of my off-road excursions and the need get back on the road again miles from nowhere. I carry about six cartiges just in case, but they are a PITA in my opinion. The Cyclepump is simple small and durable, but not as cheap as tearing one apart for guts.
If ran over a box of nails, are you only going to have 'one' flat?
Wanderer and Lee,
I'm curious but if your tires are up on trip why not stop at gas station and top off?
I carry the pump (EZ-gage and Tire Plugger) because of my off-road excursions and the need get back on the road again miles from nowhere. I carry about six cartiges just in case, but they are a PITA in my opinion. The Cyclepump is simple small and durable, but not as cheap as tearing one apart for guts.
If ran over a box of nails, are you only going to have 'one' flat?
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Stuff2c
Guest
wanderer said:Interesting thread to me. I did the Wally World pump, bust the case off thing and carried it for a few K.
Maybe this is the point at which I differ, I adjust tire pressure every morning when I tour. For that purpose, the pump became a pain. I got the small CO2 thingy from a bike shop and 25 CO2 catrtriges are about $12 from any Wally World in the country. I carry a small zip bag full of cartriges and the inflator and my tire guage all in about the size of my pump w/hose w/power cord. If I were running Baja I'd probably carry the pump but around the US I like the CO2 better. DEFINATELY a case of YMMV.
To the original thread question, 3 or 4 cartriges will get you to town. The question may become however, did you get the repair right the first time???? If not then it's 3 or 4 cartriges for each attempt. I usually have about a dozen with me. Food for thought.
Holly cow! You adjust your tire EVERY morning. I thought I was overdoing it cause I kick my tires every morning on a trip.
I have done a couple of test runs with the CO2 cartridges whilst installing new tyres on the GS and it took about 5 on the rear to get close to pressure and seat the bead, and 4 on the front for the same. I know the cartridges are not necessarily designed with actual pressure in mind, however in the middle of nowhere if that is all you have then it pays to be prepared. When I have tested the plugger kit with old tyres prior to changing, it only takes about 2-3 cartridges to reach something like pressure. Of course add a cylinder or two if your machine is loaded and you need the higher pressures.
I also found that a small can of WD40, the couple ounce size usually at the checkouts at auto part stores really helped a bunch to lube the bead. The release of CO2 is immediate and any help to avoid hang ups really pays off.
I carry a cycle pump but there is always a chance that anything electircal may fail for the dumb reasons, after all Mr Murphy rides with all of us at various times.
I also found that a small can of WD40, the couple ounce size usually at the checkouts at auto part stores really helped a bunch to lube the bead. The release of CO2 is immediate and any help to avoid hang ups really pays off.
I carry a cycle pump but there is always a chance that anything electircal may fail for the dumb reasons, after all Mr Murphy rides with all of us at various times.
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RIDERR1150GSADV
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Pump
Although the CO cartridges let you inflate a fixed tire
, it is not wise to leave that gas in the tire as it will deteriorate the tire. I have a small 12 V pump that I picked up at Discount Auto. You can use the CO to get to a gas station or so and than re-inflate the tire with air. YMMV
Although the CO cartridges let you inflate a fixed tire
, it is not wise to leave that gas in the tire as it will deteriorate the tire. I have a small 12 V pump that I picked up at Discount Auto. You can use the CO to get to a gas station or so and than re-inflate the tire with air. YMMVriderR1150GSAdv said:Although the CO cartridges let you inflate a fixed tire
That would be the plan for sure as per instructions
soffiler
New member
riderR1150GSAdv said:Although the CO cartridges let you inflate a fixed tire
Really?
I can't seem to find any references to CO2 deterioration of rubber. Oxygen (O2), yes. Ozone (O3) absolutely yes. But CO2 is rather non-reactive as far as I know.
Now, those "Tire-Flate" aerosol cans are another matter altogether. They use propane, if I remember correctly. That will surely lead to trouble if left in the tire long-term.
wanderer
Just passin through
Yes, I'm anal about tires
If there is ANY logic to my obsession it may be because around here touring can mean 50* daily temperature changes and 5k elevation changes.
To answer "Why not stop at a gas station" my response is, they're usually not right near the motel. I also gas up at night for a quick start in the AM. So it's suite up, then find a station, dig for quarters, then wait for the guy drinking coffee sitting next to the air pump while his bud's in getting a donut. Deposit quarter, s**t the pump don't work. On to next station, s**t now my tires aren't cold anymore. It ain't easy being me.
I think what turned me against the pump was a time I got all suited up for winter riding (on a trip) and went to a station I knew was there. When I got to the gas station they didn't have air. Then had to root through my luggage, get the pump, run electric, run air line and by the time I was done, I was overheated and then froze for a couple of hours because I was damp.
I guess to boil it all down, I'm just lazy. In the morning at a motel it's add luggage, drink coffee, start high idle, drink coffee, air tires, drink coffee, finish suiting up, drink coffee, get on bike and ride away for another great day of freedom. Stop before leaving motel parking lot remove helmet, mutter s**t, go back to room take everything back off and pee because of all that damn coffee I drank and then start again.
As far as the last few posts about CO2 being "bad air", I researched it a bunch and came up with nothing negative. I also saw some posts about CO2 having different "expansion rates" than "air" also not confirmed. Some real science guys got involved and I'm comfortable using CO2.
If there is ANY logic to my obsession it may be because around here touring can mean 50* daily temperature changes and 5k elevation changes.
To answer "Why not stop at a gas station" my response is, they're usually not right near the motel. I also gas up at night for a quick start in the AM. So it's suite up, then find a station, dig for quarters, then wait for the guy drinking coffee sitting next to the air pump while his bud's in getting a donut. Deposit quarter, s**t the pump don't work. On to next station, s**t now my tires aren't cold anymore. It ain't easy being me.
I think what turned me against the pump was a time I got all suited up for winter riding (on a trip) and went to a station I knew was there. When I got to the gas station they didn't have air. Then had to root through my luggage, get the pump, run electric, run air line and by the time I was done, I was overheated and then froze for a couple of hours because I was damp.
I guess to boil it all down, I'm just lazy. In the morning at a motel it's add luggage, drink coffee, start high idle, drink coffee, air tires, drink coffee, finish suiting up, drink coffee, get on bike and ride away for another great day of freedom. Stop before leaving motel parking lot remove helmet, mutter s**t, go back to room take everything back off and pee because of all that damn coffee I drank and then start again.
As far as the last few posts about CO2 being "bad air", I researched it a bunch and came up with nothing negative. I also saw some posts about CO2 having different "expansion rates" than "air" also not confirmed. Some real science guys got involved and I'm comfortable using CO2.
