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What are the shop rates???
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brownie0486
Well-known member
I had to laugh at that bolded. I was tasked to fly to Oregon by a New England Patriot to recover 50K he'd lent this charlatan. He was the second client from the Patriots who reached out after I'd recovered 35K for another player the month before. I'd flown to Portland the first time to make the collection. The guy didn't appreciate my approach to pay up but he paid up while I was there in his officer by wire transfer to my clients account.
So, I take the second player as a client, I can collect that 50K of which I get 20% of whatever I can recover. I make a phone call to the guy in Portland. Explain he doesn't want me to fly back out to Portland, pay the client in 10 days or I'm on my way. I waited the 10 days, called the NE Patriot and asked if he'd received his money. He had and wanted to know where to send the 10K.
Two minute call, 10K in the coffers. Billable, not on the clock hours.
Actual hours versus shop flat rate perhaps?
Like the local HD dealer that charged two hours to change both ties on a bagger and does it in 45 minutes!
It still doesn't work out as he would have to bill roughly 180 hours to charge out $4500 at $25 per hour.
Years ago in my own shop, on jobs I had done repeatedly I could bill out 2 to 1, but I wasn't able to do it across the board.
globalrider
Alps Adventurer
Motorcycles: $0 /hr.
Acura RDX: $0 /hr.
Both Porsches: $0 / hr. Can you believe they pay as much as $600 for an oil and oil filter change.
Mind you, reading some/many of the threads, its probably a good idea because tools and some people just do not go together.
It'll be an absolute cold day in hell when I pay someone to work on my vehicles and to a lower standard.
Acura RDX: $0 /hr.
Both Porsches: $0 / hr. Can you believe they pay as much as $600 for an oil and oil filter change.
Mind you, reading some/many of the threads, its probably a good idea because tools and some people just do not go together.It'll be an absolute cold day in hell when I pay someone to work on my vehicles and to a lower standard.
pglaves
#13338
Motorcycles: $0 /hr.
Acura RDX: $0 /hr.
Both Porsches: $0 / hr. Can you believe they pay as much as $600 for an oil and oil filter change.
It'll be an absolute cold day in hell when I pay someone to work on my vehicles and to a lower standard.
With those rates we should all take our bikes and cars to GlobalRider. I heard on the internet that he does good work.
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mikegalbicka
Back in the saddle again
With those rates we should all take our bikes and cars to GlobalRider. I heard on the internet that he does good work.
I would pay him double those rates.
globalrider
Alps Adventurer
With those rates we should all take out bikes and cars to GlobalRider. I heard on the internet that he does good work.
Bring beer, but none of the pissy American or Canadian stuff. Bud Light is not a beer and I use it to wash my cars. Also, I drink out of bottles, not cans.
This is what I drink...good Polish beer...
stevenrankin
Active member
Never had it
Interesting I will have to source and try. St.
Interesting I will have to source and try. St.
globalrider
Alps Adventurer
Sorry Paul, I know you are trying to gather data, but I just could not help myself.
stevenrankin
Active member
My rates
LOl i listed my rates, just kidding I am not in business. As for helping out, I am not set up to do any work on anything newer than 95 airheads. No scan tool andI don't have a large selection of Torx head stuff to fit the modern bikes. St.
LOl i listed my rates, just kidding I am not in business. As for helping out, I am not set up to do any work on anything newer than 95 airheads. No scan tool andI don't have a large selection of Torx head stuff to fit the modern bikes. St.
pglaves
#13338
When looking at shop rates, some humor is useful!
kbasa
Well-known member
I've worked in legal for 41 years. No, there is no "flat rate" equivalent for legal work in most fee arrangements and if you inflate your bill with hours you didn't work, get ready to get hauled up and sanctioned on ethics charges by the bar.
Been there, watched that.
Shop rates are defined by a book that spells out exactly how much time to bill for each task. It's like splitting a dinner tab with friends. Sometimes you make out a little, sometimes, you don't.
kbasa
Well-known member
It must be both expensive to use and it must leave your cars really sticky.
As I've said before, if I had to pay todays shop rates, I'd have to give up motorcycles. I do as much work on my own bikes as I can. A couple of years ago I bought a NoMar so I could change my own tires. Just bought a small hand held scan tool off ebay. $350 bucks, but considering the local Ducati dealer wanted over $1000 dollars! 
to do a service on my Hypermotard, it was money well spent.
to do a service on my Hypermotard, it was money well spent.
kbasa
Well-known member
Motorcycles: $0 /hr.
Acura RDX: $0 /hr.
Both Porsches: $0 / hr. Can you believe they pay as much as $600 for an oil and oil filter change.
It'll be an absolute cold day in hell when I pay someone to work on my vehicles and to a lower standard.
My Boxster takes 9 quarts of Mobil 1. I use Swepco Oil at $13/qt., so yeah, I can kinda believe $600 at the Porsche dealer for an oil change. And you know that you're not just getting an oil change at the Porsche dealer, they're going to run the full Inspection for you.
There's a reason I bought a 987. I can still do all the things to it in my garage and only needed a $150 Foxwell gizmo with the Porsche stuff loaded on it to be able to do so. Sure, I've had to add some tools (eTorx sockets, notably, along with higher value torque wrenches, jack stands and QuickJacks), but I can do pretty much anything on it.
Next projects are brake fluid change and a coolant change since they're both two years old now.
Shop labor rate data - I believe that the local BMW dealer [Motorcycles of Greensboro, NC] (owned by the same guy that owns the Charlotte BMW shop) also charges $90 / half-hour. My last visit to the BMW service dept. was a couple of years ago on the day before the warranty expired on my 2018 R1200RTw. The stated rate at the time was $85 per half-hour. I paid the service tech to inspect the cams for excessive wear - none found. About a half-hour labor charged. The local Triumph dealer charges $155 per hour. I had my 2022 Tiger 900 in the shop last week to reset the service indicator (the hardware / software equivalent to GS-911 would not do this [yet, soon to be fixed, I hope!]). Several software / firmware updates were also installed - this took a couple of hours, but I was only charged for 0.4 labor hours. I was surprised that it wasn't a lot more as I spent the couple of hours in the shop chatting with the service guys - very interesting.
Beer data - there is a local brewery [Red Oak] that has good beer (in my opinion). The beer has to stay refrigerated. This is why -
https://www.redoakbrewery.com/#RealBeer
Reinheitsgebot
The 1516 Bavarian Law of Purity
Duke Wilhelm IV enacted the Reinheitsgebot or Bavarian Beer Purity Law in 1516. It stated that the only ingredients allowed in beer making were barley, hops and water. This is the oldest law governing food and beverage and was issued to achieve the following goals:
To prohibit the use of cereal grains normally used in bread making (wheat, spelt and rye) to make beer, in order to prevent famine in years of poor harvests. Note: Only barley was allowed. To protect the health of beer drinkers by prohibiting the then customary use of health-threatening bittering and seasoning agents. Note: Only hops were permitted. Yeast was not included because it had not yet been discovered!
Although the Law of Purity has undergone some amendments over the years, the bottom line is that we adhere to the Purity Law of 1516 by using only water, malted barley, yeast and hops. Red Oak Brewery is committed to brewing the best beer possible using only the very best ingredients.
All Red Oak Lagers carry the 1516 Seal as your assurance they have been brewed according to the 1516 Bavarian Law of Purity.
Beer data - there is a local brewery [Red Oak] that has good beer (in my opinion). The beer has to stay refrigerated. This is why -
https://www.redoakbrewery.com/#RealBeer
Reinheitsgebot
The 1516 Bavarian Law of Purity
Duke Wilhelm IV enacted the Reinheitsgebot or Bavarian Beer Purity Law in 1516. It stated that the only ingredients allowed in beer making were barley, hops and water. This is the oldest law governing food and beverage and was issued to achieve the following goals:
To prohibit the use of cereal grains normally used in bread making (wheat, spelt and rye) to make beer, in order to prevent famine in years of poor harvests. Note: Only barley was allowed. To protect the health of beer drinkers by prohibiting the then customary use of health-threatening bittering and seasoning agents. Note: Only hops were permitted. Yeast was not included because it had not yet been discovered!
Although the Law of Purity has undergone some amendments over the years, the bottom line is that we adhere to the Purity Law of 1516 by using only water, malted barley, yeast and hops. Red Oak Brewery is committed to brewing the best beer possible using only the very best ingredients.
All Red Oak Lagers carry the 1516 Seal as your assurance they have been brewed according to the 1516 Bavarian Law of Purity.
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kbasa
Well-known member
Except that the Germans went ahead and have been brewing hefeweizen the entire time too and it's kind of a traditional summer beer.
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globalrider
Alps Adventurer
A joke! I can't stand crap beer and I know, taste is subjective but unless you can get a craft beer that might be good, the rest of it is...well...not very good. Funny how we call it a "Craft Beer"; in Germany it is the norm and just called beer. For weizen bier...Weihenstephaner.
We should have a beer thread. Hell, we drive BMWs. This year, I stopped in at the "HB Haus" in Munich as well as at the "Biergarten am Chinesischen Turm" in the English Gardens, also the BMW Museum for the 100th anniversary of the motorcycle.
