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Honda Cub 60th Anniversary in 2018

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Honda's 60th Anniversary of the Cub includes 100 million units produced and is offered in 160 countries.

Very nice 50cc & 110cc models that are fuel injected, have pointless ignition and a catalytic converter. It meets World Motorcycle Test Cycle (WMTC) Standards.
Not for sale in the United States. As a US citizen, I don't know why.

I, and two of my long time motorcycle enthusiast friends, want a 110cc Super Cub. I'm pretty sure there is a market in the US for the Cubs.

Just because I want one does not create market demand. I'd like to hear the reason these models are not offered for the US. And from US Honda and Honda Japan Marketing.

I wonder if the Cub Series is available in Canada ?

Charlie

Interesting site for two wheeled enthusiast:
http://world.honda.com/Cub/
 
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I haven't seen any new Cubs in Canada in my memory. It would be nice if Honda could import in some of their home market bikes to the Canadian/North American markets on occasion. Back when I took rider training in the late 90s, the company had an evaluation copy of a Honda SL230, which was a really nice version of an early 70s on/off road bike. It reminded me of my cousin's Elsinore, and I would still like to have one in the garage.
 
Just because I want one does not create market demand. I'd like to hear the reason these models are not offered for the US. And from US Honda and Honda Japan Marketing.

I think the reason is US urban sprawl. Home, work and shopping are widely spread apart, main roads are often 45+ mph. In recent history, I had a '71 CB100, which I used for occasional commuting. Using back roads, it was just barely adequate for the seven mile trip, if traffic was heavy and the one stretch of unavoidable 50 mph road was only moving at 40-45. I was a rolling roadblock when light traffic allowed normal speeds. I could get to the limit but it took a while. Currently, I'm storing and have use of my niece's '72 CB175. Even that bike is working hard on the 55mph rural roads around here, and my niece will not even attempt any limited access highway. It just does not have the power (or brakes) for today's speed limits.

A Cub works best for short trips in densely populated areas with low speed limits. The profit margin is small, so Honda would need to make their profits on volume, and there just is not enough demand here.

I was going to suggest you look at the Cub clone from Symba, but I see it is now discontinued. Friends had a pair for several years, but they work from home and live very near shopping areas, so their trips are mostly less than a mile in length, and the roads are all posted at 25-35 mph. For errands, the Symbas worked great to just jump on and go. Then she slipped on some diesel, wearing only an open face helmet and jacket for protection. Injuries included a broken jaw and teeth, and severe road rash on her face, hands and knees, so now they recognize the need for ATGATT. But gearing up takes longer than a short trip, so it's simpler/quicker to use the car or walk. Her bike was sold, his is gathering dust.
 
Cub

It cost so much to get a bike certified for sale in US than if they want to sell in California even more **** and Honda large global company has to follow the rules! However if you want a Chinese version of an old cub you can probably find one because they don't follow the rules. You have a widget store want to sell small scooters and cub type thing go on line pick a name order some cycles by the shipping container full they come than widget store starts selling $700 or $800 bikes way cheaper than a legit dealer you need parts go to website in China if you get caught and can no longer sell flying bird scooters next time order running rabbit brand guessing dealer has fake certification stuff if you trace back to China end up at afukey.u website if this is not true than its just a possible business model invest at your own risk!
 
It cost so much to get a bike certified for sale in US than if they want to sell in California even more **** and Honda large global company has to follow the rules! However if you want a Chinese version of an old cub you can probably find one because they don't follow the rules. You have a widget store want to sell small scooters and cub type thing go on line pick a name order some cycles by the shipping container full they come than widget store starts selling $700 or $800 bikes way cheaper than a legit dealer you need parts go to website in China if you get caught and can no longer sell flying bird scooters next time order running rabbit brand guessing dealer has fake certification stuff if you trace back to China end up at afukey.u website if this is not true than its just a possible business model invest at your own risk!

This could win an award in Writing Fiction.
 
Cub.....

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Or Mini-Trail....

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Classics!

OM
 
Forgot to ask our Mexican friends if the Super Cubs were available to them.

Or any other MOA Members in other countries. i.e. NZ, Australia, Great Britain, South Africa, Germany, and everywhere else.
160 Countries is an impressive list.

I don't buy into the "Cost too much to have Certified in the US". Never have.
I could be wrong.

Charlie
 
A friend of mine had sort of an interesting experience on a Cub. After graduating high school he worked at the Seattle World’s Fair until it closed. Prior to closing, he’d visited a Marine Corps recruiting station and arranged to enlist, but with a three week span from the end of his job until he had to report for Basic training.

The day after the Fair closed, he departed Seattle on his Honda Cub enroute to...San Francisco. Took him a few (haha) days to get down there. While sitting at the north end of the Golden Gate Bridge, contemplating the sign which informed him that scooters were not allowed to cross the bridge, a CHP patrol unit stopped beside him. The officer chatted with him for a few minutes about alternate routes. A polite discussion revealed that Don was headed to the Marines in a couple of weeks. The CHP officer said, “I’m a Marine, follow me and you’ll have an escort to the City”.

Don got to the City safely, and also to Yosemite before heading back home to Seattle. He had a few pictures of his journey, including a shot at the Bridge taken by the CHP officer. With his Honda Cub in the shot.

Times sure have changed!

I’m not a Marine, but Semper Fi, y’all.

Cheers!
 
Do you still meet the nicest people on a Honda?

I think that the optimism of US culture, young folks still accustomed to doing things outdoors, and the perfect ad campaign shaped the industry for decades but I think such a moment will never come again.
 
If you build it they will come, or not

There are always bikes where one can say, if it were offered in the USA I would buy one. Except I don't. And mostly other folks don't either. Honda super cub 110 cc for $xxxx Oh you mean it won't hit 80? No heated grips. For only $XXX more I can have a 500? Tag and Insurance for a second bike costs how much!!!!


Rod
 
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If you build it they will come, or not

There are always bikes where one can say, if it were offered in the USA I would buy one. Except I don't. And mostly other folks don't either. Honda super cub 110 cc for $xxxx Oh you mean it won't hit 80? No heated grips. For only $XXX more I can have a 500? Tag and Insurance for a second bike costs how much!!!!


Rod





To the Nay Sayers:

Yes. I would expect to pay $xxxx for a Honda 110cc. Proven design, reliable, comfortable ergonomics (for me), easy parts availability, technical advice readily available, etc.

I don't care if it does not do 80 mph. I only want to do 35-45 mph.

Don't need heated grips. Good gloves or "Hippo Hands" will do in the cold weather.

Don't need to spend $xxx more for "bigger" when you don't need or want bigger.

Second bike? It would be the 6th or 7th. Insurance and tags are what they are. I call it: You have to pay to play.

Granted, those models aren't for everyone. Today is Sunday around half of this globe. I'd bet there are plenty of small motorbikes out today for pleasure. I was one of them.

Don't y'all ride sometimes for fun in Misery ?

Charlie
 
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2017/2018 Cub Prototype: C125 Honda


Rumors and speculations:

Grom engine. (Electric start). Electronic ignition. Fuel injected. 4 speed manual clutch.
Heated Grips.
Tubeless tires
Etc............

Only if it makes it to production and imported into the U.S., it could be aimed at, among other markets, some of the nicest people left over from the 60's.

Charlie
 
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With a 125CC and a modest size rider a 125 "should" be able to hit 60MPH or more on level ground. I do not know if it would be reliable running wide open for many miles, I suspect it would have shorter engine life.

Personally I want a Motoped survival bike.

Rod
 
Honda has more than 60 years experience building little, efficient motors for a market that beats them like a government mule and neglects maintenance. I'll bet that a Honda 125 could run almost indefinitely at 60 MPH.
 
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I had a 1971 CB100K1 from 1974 until 2012. I used it occasionally for my seven mile commute to work, usually on Sundays when traffic was light. It could jump ahead of traffic at a light, but only for about the first hundred feet. Then the cars would catch up and I became a bit of a road block. Getting up to 50-55mph took a while. The 6 volt electrical system was weak, as it was built before always-on headlights were the rule. If I did not keep it on a tender, using the turn signals or horn could kill the engine. I'm sure Honda has improved the electric output if they are now using FI and ABS. A 50cc Cub was one of the first bikes I ever rode, and the grandkids are getting big enough to learn, so this new model has some attractions.
 
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