Source for a final drive on a 2014 1200 RT

[lee]

You had me thinking, so I called BMW and talked with a tech. He said it was the T40 Plus.

My T40 Plus will fit but it's looser than I like.

 

[lee]

have a Neiko Torx Plus set. I only use the one out of the set for the drain plug

On a Wethead the clutch or brake fluid reservoir caps are held on by Torx Plus.
I think it's the brake reservoir cap but I'm too lazy to go look and it's cold in the garage

 

[Scott9999]

Yes, my friend is upset with himself for stripping out the head of the bolt, which started the spiral downward for him. That bolt requires a t40 plus. A regular t40 will work, and most use that, but after a while, you find yourself in the same situation if you are not careful.

Yep, I also almost "buggered" my FD drain bolt, before I figured out I had the wrong bit. Now, I don't touch it unless I manually pre-fit the bit to the bolt, and see, and feel that it's a solid connection. As I mentioned before, too, a new washer and proper torque helps a bunch, too. (I also have to look up the exact type of washer every time, copper or crush, whatever, BMW's weird on this. The washers for the oil drain and FD drain are different types, which I discovered when I switched them and found a pool of motor oil in the morning after I had changed to oil.) Your friend's mistake is an exceedingly easy one to make.

 

[lee]

On a Wethead the clutch or brake fluid reservoir caps are held on by Torx Plus.
I think it's the brake reservoir cap but I'm too lazy to go look and it's cold in the garage

I forgot I have pictures for that
Brake side is torx plus



Clutch side is Torx

 

[PGlaves]

I forgot I have pictures for that
Brake side is torx plus
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Clutch side is Torx
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That is just plain weird. Are the threads different or just the heads.

 

[ncangler]

That is just plain weird. Are the threads different or just the heads.

I have no idea; I never had the clutch cover off. I can't find a service interval for the clutch fluid. I'm told there is none and to leave it alone unless there becomes a problem. I also have a BMW 328xi, and between that and my bikes, I have had to buy some unique tools to keep up with German engineering!

 

[gloucesterman]

I have no idea; I never had the clutch cover off. I can't find a service interval for the clutch fluid. I'm told there is none and to leave it alone unless there becomes a problem. I also have a BMW 328xi, and between that and my bikes, I have had to buy some unique tools to keep up with German engineering!

There is no service interval for the clutch fluid. BMW uses mineral oil and it is suppose to last "forever"! It requires removal of the starter and that requires a whole bunch of stuff to come off before you get to it.

 

[ncangler]

There is no service interval for the clutch fluid. BMW uses mineral oil and it is suppose to last "forever"! It requires removal of the starter and that requires a whole bunch of stuff to come off before you get to it.

That is what I have been told

 

[lee]

That is just plain weird. Are the threads different or just the heads.

BMW does stuff like that just to mess with us

 

[Seaweed]

OK, this is clear as mud. It is clearly a plus torx, but is it 40 or 45?
40plus seems to be common, 45 not so much.
Not a hardware store fastener to found on these bikes.

 

[lee]

OK, this is clear as mud. It is clearly a plus torx, but is it 40 or 45?
40plus seems to be common, 45 not so much.
Not a hardware store fastener to found on these bikes.

T40 Plus for the final drive drain plug on a Wethead bike.

 

[rhbike]

BMW does stuff like that just to mess with us

They are trying to copy the vintage British cars, where they routinely mixed BA, Whitworth, among other obscure standard on the same part.

 

[DSXMachina]

When I had a machine shop that would not be a problem. Yes, EDM is the clean, technical way to get it out. BUT the way we all did it was this: Weld (MIG or TIG) a suitable steel bolt to the plug, say a 10mm diameter bolt. The head will be probably 15mm. Get a 15mm socket and ratchet and go to town.

 

[105258]

Yup that's what I did. Go slow keep the heat down, build up a pin with weld then slip the nut on and weld it to the pin. Turn it off. Simple.