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Sena upgrade or not, let's hear it..
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brianhinton
2018 Rally Chair
20s all the way IMO
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What shortcoming in the SMH10 are you trying to "fix"?
If there are no shortcomings and the SMH10 works for you, why upgrade just to upgrade? There's always some marketing person out there who needs to convince you to spend your money on something you don't need, just so they stay employed.
Chris
If there are no shortcomings and the SMH10 works for you, why upgrade just to upgrade? There's always some marketing person out there who needs to convince you to spend your money on something you don't need, just so they stay employed.
Chris
vfroger
Rider
If you regularly talk bike to bike and listen to music, get the 20S. The audio multitasking feature allows you to talk and listen to music simultaneously with the music "dimming" whenever you or anyone else is speaking. It's quite nice not to have to change modes to do both. Caution: the other rider must have a 20S, too as it doesn't function correctly if they are using anything else.
If you regularly talk to multiple people while riding, the 20S can connect to 8 other 20S units. It cannot make more than 3 other SMH-10 units work with it though, at least in my experience. We couldn't make 4 SMH-10 units and a 20S work on a ride recently.
It is smaller than the SMH-10, BUT the antenna must be flipped up for the FM and intercom use. In my experience, it does not have greater range than the SMH-10 despite Sena's claims. The mounting is different than the SMH-10 and possibly better, but that is subjective.
I still have my set of SMH-10 units and may put one into a dual-sport helmet, but I like the 20S better. It connects more quickly and is just more smoothly integrated with all the pairings than the SMH-10. Except for the FM and multitasking audio, it does nothing the SMH-10 doesn't.
Hope this helps.
If you regularly talk to multiple people while riding, the 20S can connect to 8 other 20S units. It cannot make more than 3 other SMH-10 units work with it though, at least in my experience. We couldn't make 4 SMH-10 units and a 20S work on a ride recently.
It is smaller than the SMH-10, BUT the antenna must be flipped up for the FM and intercom use. In my experience, it does not have greater range than the SMH-10 despite Sena's claims. The mounting is different than the SMH-10 and possibly better, but that is subjective.
I still have my set of SMH-10 units and may put one into a dual-sport helmet, but I like the 20S better. It connects more quickly and is just more smoothly integrated with all the pairings than the SMH-10. Except for the FM and multitasking audio, it does nothing the SMH-10 doesn't.
Hope this helps.
brianhinton
2018 Rally Chair
That's worth it right there. It seems that the last few group rides I've been on, most riders have the 20s, and the connectivity is super easy and quick.
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vfroger
Rider
The 10U is definitely made for the Schuberth and is a really clean installation. But, it still operates with 10 series features and does not include the audio multitasking feature which is the huge advantage of the 20S. Furthermore, the number of units that can be paired is limited. Another consideration is that the 10U uses the remote control on the handlebar. I have no experience with it, but it is another item to pair, connect, and eventually, charge.
mlytle
Member
Love the 10u for its integration into the helmet. Can't even tell it is there.
Downside. ..the fm radio totally sucks. Reception is horrible at best.
61996
IBA# 5819
I agree on both those points.
sagerat
Boxers uber alles
I have been impressed with my 20s so far; very good reception for FM with decent sound. Intercom buddy had SMH10 so he sounded great in my helmet, I sounded a little scratchy with slight wind noise in his. We've both updated our respective firmware, so we'll see if that changes on our next ride in a few days.
The voice command can be exasperating at speeds above 60. And at the risk of needing a flame suit, I will say the clarity of the phone was exceptionally good as people didn't even realize I was riding my bike. The combo of the Schuberth C3 and the Sena 20s helped, I'm sure.
The voice command can be exasperating at speeds above 60. And at the risk of needing a flame suit, I will say the clarity of the phone was exceptionally good as people didn't even realize I was riding my bike. The combo of the Schuberth C3 and the Sena 20s helped, I'm sure.
MCMXCIVRS
More toys than space
I upgraded from an SMH10 to the 20s two years ago. No problem with the 10 except that somehow in a thunderstorm, my wife's unit somehow came off the base and was lost. I still have the single remaining 10 in use on my DS helmet. I do like the 20s better though. The FM is nice when I commute and the reception range is decent. It's also nice to use the smartphone app to manage the pairings if you do connect to multiples. The app also makes a few other tasks simpler to set up.
52184
GTRider
Wife and I have 20s units for travel in the sidecar rig. Overall, we really like them--easy to pair and capable of handling gps,phone, music, and radar simultaneously. I also like the voice comnand and the FM for commuting, but have not been able to adjust volume on the FM.
Best,
DG
Best,
DG
