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Remove the alarm, 05 1150R

Pasta_Mouse

Pasta_Mouse

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I'd like to remove the alarm on this bike. It doesn't respond to the fob, I never need it and I think it may be draining the battery but can't be too sure about that one.
Tried searching the site. Put in all sorts of versions of the question but got nothing usable in the results. Somebody told me that it's really easy. Just unplug everything and clip one wire. Can't remember which one but you can find it on Google. Nope...
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
Open up Google and enter - SITE:forums.bmwmoa.org"alarm"
I didn't see anything particularly useful there, tho... :scratch
 
The first thread in the Similar Threads pane below wasn't much help, but interesting to see that in that person's process, they reached a point where the bike wouldn't start. :scratch
 
I don't have a schematic for the alarm hookup, but it is reasonable that the computer would kill the bike if it thinks somebody f'd with the alarm...
 
Pauls1150 said:
I don't have a schematic for the alarm hookup, but it is reasonable that the computer would kill the bike if it thinks somebody f'd with the alarm...
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That's what'll happen. You have to jump certain wires together for it to work. Otherwise you'll just have a sexy paperweight. I know on the 12 pin alarm you have to jump pins 6, 2 and 10 together but I have the 7 and 3 pin plugs. :brow
 
I went thru all my OE BMW 4V schematics. No reference to any DWA alarm connections.

Can you provide the wire colours/pin number on each connector? I'll try to trace that way.
 
Wires

GSAddict said:
I went thru all my OE BMW 4V schematics. No reference to any DWA alarm connections.

Can you provide the wire colours/pin number on each connector? I'll try to trace that way.
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There are 3 plugs. Two come from the bike. First up is a 8 pin plug but uses 7. Here we go!
1 Blu/Red
2 White
3 Grn/Red
4 Grn/Blu
5 Blk/Yel
6 Blk/Red
7 Blu/Blue, purple or violet??

3 pin
1 Red/Wht
2 Grn/Yel
3 Brn

By some miracle I was able to read the pin numbers so they are correct. Some wires the colors change from one side of the plug to the other so these colors were read from the bike side.
Thank you for looking into this!
 
Pasta_Mouse said:
There are 3 plugs. Two come from the bike. First up is a 8 pin plug but uses 7. Here we go!
1 Blu/Red
2 White
3 Grn/Red
4 Grn/Blu
5 Blk/Yel
6 Blk/Red
7 Blu/Blue, purple or violet??

3 pin
1 Red/Wht
2 Grn/Yel
3 Brn

By some miracle I was able to read the pin numbers so they are correct. Some wires the colors change from one side of the plug to the other so these colors were read from the bike side.
Thank you for looking into this!
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No reference to the 8 pin connector or the 3 pin.
There are likely alarm specific schematics which I don't have.

The 3 pin connector appears to be power for the alarm.
Try disconnecting that and seeing if the bike starts and runs and that all the lights work.

Can you post a picture of all the connectors?
 
GSAddict said:
No reference to the 8 pin connector or the 3 pin.
There are likely alarm specific schematics which I don't have.

The 3 pin connector appears to be power for the alarm.
Try disconnecting that and seeing if the bike starts and runs and that all the lights work.

Can you post a picture of all the connectors?
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I unplugged the 3 pin and no start. The fuel pump doesn't prime when you turn the key on. The alarm is made by Gemel. All I could find when I put the number into the Google machine all I got was stuff like people selling them used. If you need a pic of anything specific like the plug ends let me know. Thank you!
 

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It appears like you may be able to unplug the alarm connectors and plug the bike side ones into themselves.
8 pin to 8 pin and 3 pin to 3 pin
Likely the way the non DWA bikes came from the factory.
The rectangular black box is the motion detector, for the alarm.
 
GSAddict said:
It appears like you may be able to unplug the alarm connectors and plug the bike side ones into themselves.
8 pin to 8 pin and 3 pin to 3 pin
Likely the way the non DWA bikes came from the factory.
The rectangular black box is the motion detector, for the alarm.
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The 8 and the 3 pin come from the bike but I don't see anything to plug them into if I disconnect the alarm. Do you think there are possibly empty plugs somewhere under the tail panels?
 
Possibly. The fiche picture shows a secondary harness Item 12
These alarms were plug and play by the dealer if someone wanted the option added. No cutting of wires was required.


There may also be a dummy end that plugs into the 8 pin connector that does the jumpering required.
 

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GSAddict said:
Possibly. The fiche picture shows a secondary harness Item 12
These alarms were plug and play by the dealer if someone wanted the option added. No cutting of wires was required.


There may also be a dummy end that plugs into the 8 pin connector that does the jumpering required.
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Right on. I'm not working tomorrow so I'll have some time to poke around while I wait for my washers to show up for the ABS delete I'm doing on Saturday.
Another question. Where do you get access to the fiche for the bike?
 
GSAddict said:
Possibly. The fiche picture shows a secondary harness Item 12
These alarms were plug and play by the dealer if someone wanted the option added. No cutting of wires was required.


There may also be a dummy end that plugs into the 8 pin connector that does the jumpering required.
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Alright so here's the fix. The alarm is an option and like you suggested it should unplug. So I pulled the tail apart and found that the harness heads up front. Once I traced everything the harness heads off in four directions, all close together. The first is for the LED so I'm not going to bother with that. The second is to the blue 2 pin at the top of the steering head that I just unplugged. 3 and 4 are a splice into the harness that I have my finger on. Unplug the alarm and connect the bike plugs and there it is. Bike runs and all lights work.
Since the alarm harness is really in there and it breaks off somewhere for power from the fuse box I can't see I just wrapped up the forward ends and tucked the rear behind the tray.
Tomorrow is the ABS delete....
 

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Mr. Ignorant here, what's this alarm supposed to do? My ride is ancient ('98) and doesn't have such a thing. Love the San Juans!
 
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