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https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...neering-without-a-license-was-right-all-along
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...neering-without-a-license-was-right-all-along
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Is there a city planner in the house?
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...neering-without-a-license-was-right-all-along
Yes. Me. 30 Years.
Part of the problem is that certain unscrupulous private companies installing red light cameras on a profit sharing basis decreased yellow times when setting the signal system up with cameras. By shortening the yellow times more folks would get caught on red, and the company would thus make more money under the $$$ sharing agreement with the cities. A few cities got sued and most of it got fixed but ...
Yes. Me. 30 Years.
Part of the problem is that certain unscrupulous private companies installing red light cameras on a profit sharing basis decreased yellow times when setting the signal system up with cameras. By shortening the yellow times more folks would get caught on red, and the company would thus make more money under the $$$ sharing agreement with the cities. A few cities got sued and most of it got fixed but ...
Interesting article his real fight was with the licensing board who fined him for "engineering without a license", because he could apply logic and mathematics to a real world problem, this is a prime example how a well intentioned review board can overreach and become authoritarian. I'm glad his formula was recognized the vindication must also make the court rulings of his unconstitutional treatment the more sweet.
The old neighborhood I lived in Maryland we had one of those dreadful red light cameras. Locals covered it with garbage bags so often the company finally decided to remove it.
I’m not a fan of the automated ticketing, whether for speeding or red lights. In most cases it’s a private company that has persuaded local officials to split the revenue. The incentive to abuse the arrangement is high, for all parties. I applaud the guy who challenged the paradigm, especially the fine by the engineers - - which was laughable.
That said, stating “Honestly Officer, the light was yellow!” isn’t much of a defense. Yellow=stop. The only exceptions are if you’re already in the intersection, or while travelling at the legal speed limit you are too close to the intersection entrance when the light turns yellow to stop safely.
Most major intersections have dashed lines in their approaches which provide guidance to average vehicles travelling at the legal speed limit. If you are outside of the dashed-line zone you can easily stop safely on yellow. If you have entered the zone before the light turns yellow you should proceed through the intersection if it does change to yellow.
Not illegal to enter an intersection when the light is yellow, and not an infraction if it turns red while the vehicle is in the intersection. It is illegal to enter an intersection when a steady red light displayed. Such is the law in Montana.
Camera based prosecutions have been sucessully challenged citing the confrontation clause of the sixth ammendment to the US Constitution; "in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right…to be confronted with the witnesses against him."
Wow! So you are driving along at 30 MPH, the speed limit. 10 feet from the intersection, the light turns yellow and you are expected to stop??
That depends on the jurisdiction. For example, Virginia code states “Steady amber indicates that a change is about to be made in the direction of the moving of traffic. When the amber signal is shown, traffic which has not already entered the intersection, including the crosswalks, shall stop if it is not reasonably safe to continue, but traffic which has already entered the intersection shall continue to move until the intersection has been cleared.” So, yellow does not mean slow down; it does not mean go faster; it actually means stop. Accelerating to 20 over the speed limit to get past the line just before it turns red means I am going to give you a ticket, or at least a strong warning. Doing that stunt and getting a microsecond of red before you cross the line will definitely earn you some paper, at least from me.
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"shall stop if it is not reasonably safe to continue,"I'd call that wiggle room.
"So, yellow does not mean slow down; it does not mean go faster; it actually means stop". ...unless it is reasonably safe to continue?
Part "B" of my question is that since they wrote that phrase into law, what situations do you suppose they had in mind? 3AM? No traffic? Interestingly it doesn't say "unless it would be dangerous to stop" such as on a motorcycle and being tailgated by car...
Wow! So you are driving along at 30 MPH, the speed limit. 10 feet from the intersection, the light turns yellow and you are expected to stop??
No.
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