FOUR new BMW models

[willhawks]

850 RS is a great idea, but...........

Many conversations with 800 riders indicate that the bike is notorious for cooking the "family Jewels". Would love to downsize and go lighter but will not buy anything that cooks me. North America is not the Alps, and our summertime temperatures are WAY north of 70. Had 2 K bikes which became uncomfortable at temperatures over 80 and I am uninterested in motorcycles that do this. Hope they do their homework.

 

[pglaves]

Soon we shall know. Until then everybody's guess is fun, but not for sure, for sure. ")

 

[akbeemer]

Many conversations with 800 riders indicate that the bike is notorious for cooking the "family Jewels". Would love to downsize and go lighter but will not buy anything that cooks me. North America is not the Alps, and our summertime temperatures are WAY north of 70. Had 2 K bikes which became uncomfortable at temperatures over 80 and I am uninterested in motorcycles that do this. Hope they do their homework.

I probably know a half dozen F800 riders, including my riding buddy Annie. None have mentioned the bikes being unusually uncomfortable to ride in high temperatures. It gets mighty warm in Montana sometimes.

 

[lee]

I probably know a half dozen F800 riders, including my riding buddy Annie. None have mentioned the bikes being unusually uncomfortable to ride in high temperatures. It gets mighty warm in Montana sometimes.

I had a F800GT as a loner for 700 or 800 miles.
Hottest bike I've ever been on.

 

[pappy35]

I had a F800GT as a loner for 700 or 800 miles.
Hottest bike I've ever been on.

I had an '05 FJR that was simply miserable. I loved that bike but hated riding it in anything north of 80 degrees.

 

[lee]

I had a F800GT as a loner for 700 or 800 miles.
Hottest bike I've ever been on.

I should add I have not seen heat complaints on other F800 models.

 

[akbeemer]

I should add I have not seen heat complaints on other F800 models.

All but one of the F800 riders that I know well are on GS models. Annie has a combined 90+ K miles on the two GSs she has/had. I do not doubt that some people have heat issues but it does not seem to be issue common to all. Perhaps year and model are a factor.

 

[lee]

Perhaps year and model are a factor.

The GT fairing is the problem.

 

[pglaves]

The GT fairing is the problem.

Agreed. Neither Voni nor I had any heat issues with her F800S.

 

[weschmann]

Glad I didn't wait. Nothing there for me so no chance of stealing me away from by R Nine T Urban.

 

[MCMXCIVRS]

My wife compains about being cold on her F800ST. She's never said it was too hot except in Moab when it was 35C; that was just the weather not the bike.

I am quite interested to see what this F850RS is like. If they get it right, might put a pair of them in the garage to replace her ST and maybe my K1200GT.

 

[EUGENE]

A little secret!

The f800st can get hot IF above 90". The gt is hotter yet. My secret is; Most people ride with their knees too tight to the tank. Ride with a little air gap between your knees and the tank and you must be moving. This does work .Sitting in 100 plus is always hot on any bike.

 

[EUGENE]

My wife compains about being cold on her F800ST. She's never said it was too hot except in Moab when it was 35C; that was just the weather not the bike.

I am quite interested to see what this F850RS is like. If they get it right, might put a pair of them in the garage to replace her ST and maybe my K1200GT.

Is there heated grips? Maybe try a heated vest?

 

[EUGENE]

EICMA show is 11/4 thru 11/10. Looks like the 310 will go against the new KTM and Honda. Stay tune.

 

[vtbob]

My wife compains about being cold on her F800ST. She's never said it was too hot except in Moab when it was 35C; that was just the weather not the bike.

I am quite interested to see what this F850RS is like. If they get it right, might put a pair of them in the garage to replace her ST and maybe my K1200GT.

I agree. After nearly 30 years on RTs, I bought a new F650GS (twin) because the the current RTs had gotten to big,bulbous, top heavy. Rode it 50k miles and was reasonable satisfied (supension was fair..added Wilbers and front fork valve inserts) then the R1200RS came out and got one of the first ones. Love the RS but i would like a 50lb higher bike.

If the new 850RS is truly lighter, and has a premium suspension and current suite of goodies I will be taking a serious look.

If KTM does a 790GT that might be an alternative

 

[motodan]

It will be a F900R and F900RX. RX will be more upright. I'm betting two old antenna rings on this.

 

[lee]

If the new 850RS is truly lighter, and has a premium suspension and current suite of goodies I will be taking a serious look.

The F850GS weighs 504 pounds so a F850RS will probably weigh close to the R1200RS, 520 pounds.

 

[vtbob]

The F850GS weighs 504 pounds so a F850RS will probably weigh close to the R1200RS, 520 pounds.

Unfortunately I agree!

If that is the case KTM 790 will be looked at next spring.

 

[vark]

I should add I have not seen heat complaints on other F800 models.

Would that include the earlier “ST” model? It seems to have similar fairing to the GT model that replaced it.

 

[lee]

Would that include the earlier “ST” model? It seems to have similar fairing to the GT model that replaced it.

I have not heard any complaints about the ST.

I have not ridden a ST so I can't compare.