Clutch r1200gs

[BILLWEIDNER]

2005 R1200 GS 50K miles

Clutch is slipping

Dealer says $2,200 to replace. Why so much? Can I do myself?

Thanks

Bill Weidner

 

[deilenberger]

Bill,

Without knowing your wrenching skill level, or the tools you have available I'd hesitate to say if you can or not.

Replacing the clutch involves removing the transmission and most of the rear end of the motorcycle, engine back. It's not a trivial exercise... but - I have heard of considerably lower prices for the job, so if you aren't gonna DIY, it's worth doing some shopping.

What's the reason the clutch needs replacement?

 

[mpmarty]

I watched a "clutcharectory" at my dealers once. Lotsa stuff gotta come offit and suspending the rear half in the air from a crane seems to be part of it. Like doing a tonsilectomy from the lower end.

 

[marchyman]

Oilheads had the rear sub-frame lifted. With the hexhead you can remove the rear subframe, swing arm, FD, and wheel as a complete unit. The center stand comes with it. Drop the center stand and wheel it into some out-of-the-way corner. It takes about 4 hours to get that far, less time if you know what you are doing and have had practice. I suspect it would take me (never done it before) a day of futzing around the garage to get that far.

I'd budget a day to split the bike, a day to swap the clutch, and another day to put the bike back together. But I'm never in a hurry when I'm working on my bike and often do things like clean nooks and crannies that are otherwise hard to get to when the bike is in one piece.

 

[henzilla]

Hard to believe it's toast after 50K..unless it's been ridden very hard off road, the hexheads clutches seem to wear better than the earlier models from my experience...but it sounds as if you have an issue.

Having seen one GS split in two, they def are way tougher to do than the oilhead bikes. I can do an oilhead in a full day if I had to, typically do them in two sessions to stay focused. The oilheads and the tip up sub- frame sure are nice...

the Hexhead and the centerstand mounted to the rear frame instead of the engine presents issues a home shop may not be ready for. The shops use a small crane setup to roll the rear off I have watched. I would say at least two three days as Marc mentioned.

If a complete clutch pack runs around $900 with a new slave cylinder ,pushrod and other small parts , I say that's not a bad price to let someone else do it. I rarely go to all the trouble just to replace the friction disc unless it's very low mileage and the slave cylinder leaked onto the disc...others may to save some money. Most of the time, the associated parts are close to the wear limits and you really don't want to go back in there for something you can do the first time
here is a rough partslist to replace all the bits...you wouldn't need it all...but it gets pricey quick. I'd ask around to a few dealers if that is an option for you as well.



Part Number Description lb Qty Each
01 21217697741 CLUTCH HOUSING 1.92 1 $212.37
02 21217697739 REINFORCEMENT RING 0.15 1 $20.15
03 21217684771 COLLAR SCREW - M11X1.5X27 0.07 5 $2.42
04 21217702595 PRESSURE PLATE 4.01 1 $339.46
05 21217697737 CLUTCH PLATE 0.69 1 $175.31
06 21217697740 HOUSING COVER 1.94 1 $170.97
07 21212332469 INNER HEX BOLT - M6X20 0.02 6 $2.00
01 21527711259 CLUTCH CABLE, INPUT/OUTPUT CYLINDER 0.24 1 $161.12
07 23002332975 FILLISTER-HEAD SCREW - M 6X18 0.01 2 $1.20
08 21217702596 PUSH ROD, SPHERICAL 0.28 1 $48.72
09 23211230440 FELTRING 1 $3.97
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[BILLWEIDNER]

Thank you

Thanks for your detailed resoponse.

Bill Weidner

 

[BILLWEIDNER]

Reply to Don

Self diagnosis - When attempting to accelerate in 5th-6th engine races without acceleration.

Bill