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'17 K1600GT in the Alps

Er... why would long bars help a GS but not an R or K bike? [/head scratch]

I'd expect the S to be good with the turns. What took the shine off of the ride?
 
Er... why would long bars help a GS but not an R or K bike? [/head scratch]

I'd expect the S to be good with the turns. What took the shine off of the ride?
I think he is saying the long bars on the GS which are wider than the K16 or RT provide a leverage advantage for turning.

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Er... why would long bars help a GS but not an R or K bike? :scratch

I feel like I had more leverage with the longer handle bars (maybe they're not longer) when I rode my GS . . . but it could have been riding position. :scratch I'm not sure. I've been riding BMWs for a long time and I've owned a number of different BMWs. Anyway, I have a road in the North Carolina mountains that I have used as a handling bench mark over the years. I was always able to get up the mountain quicker on a GS. (Or maybe I just had more confidence on a GS? :dunno )

I'd expect the S to be good with the turns. What took the shine off of the ride?

The S was not a great bike in the Alps for me because of the riding position. For the Alps I felt like I needed to be sitting more upright so that I could see the next corner.
 
Sight lines... oh my yes they do count for something. I'm trying to mount my first video from the trip, and there's a most excellent demonstration of the value of minding sight lines about a third of the way in.

It's funny about the posture thing. On my KRS I tend to "prairie dog" when I'm not sure what's around a corner. Think about it a minute, and popping up for a look doesn't really change much, looking left to right. OTOH, I suppose it helps a bit when wondering what's coming up, over the next dip and rise in the road.

In general, though, I found the Alpine question is "what's behind the rocks in front of me" or "what's hiding in the trees to the left/right". Looking up or down, while approaching a hairpin, didn't seem to matter. It's literally all in the head. A lot of my pass road video has the scenery whipping back and forth as I check for what's coming down the hill. Heading downhill, usually just looking over the edge of the road was enough. Anyway, probably "prairie dogging" doesn't really help, but it sure seems like it should.
 
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