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New BMW Motorcycle Shifting System

exgman

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One of my fellow team-members of Ombudsmen on the BMW Car Club of America found an interesting article yesterday from a publication called "AutoEvolution' and passed it along." Seems like a further development of the presently-available "Shift Assistant Pro." I'm posting it below:

BMW Kills the Clutch Lever on Motorcycles, New Tech Still Allows for Manual Shifting
May 6, 2024 • Source: AutoEvolution


Motorcycle riding is a relatively easy thing to do, once you get the hang of it. Even the two most challenging things for newbies, keeping one's balance and gear shifting, tend to fade into the background once some experience is gained, and, like everything else about motorcycling, these things become instinctual. That means we rarely give them any thought and don't realize there could be easier ways of, say, changing gears.
Just as it happens with cars, motorcycles come with either manual or automatic transmissions. In the case of the former design, we're talking about trannies with five or six speeds, that need the operation of the clutch but also of a foot pedal. Automated ones, on the other hand, handle tasks on their own.
There are pros and cons to both of these designs. When it comes to a manual, just as it happens with cars, the rider is much more in control of what the bike offers, and they have a direct impact on acceleration, fuel consumption, and bike behavior. These things could, however, be harder to ride, especially for the inexperienced, and if improperly operated, could lead to stalling.
Automated trannies, on the other hand, are a lot easier to use and can prove godsent in crowded urban environments. There's no stalling to speak of, because a computer handles the clutch and shifting, but fuel consumption could be higher and the cost of an auto, both initially and maintenance-wise, tends to be higher as well.
But what if someone could blend in all the pros of the two designs and eliminate most of the cons? That's what the Germans from BMW Motorrad claim to have achieved when they unveiled the Automated Shift Assistant (ASA) late last week.
Described as an "innovative technical solution that makes riding simpler and more comfortable," ASA basically automates clutch operation at all times and gearshifting when the rider desires this - the system allows the rider to choose between manual and automated operation.
The system works thanks to two electromechanical actuators designed to take control over the clutch and gearshifting in six-speed transmissions. But, again, that only happens when the rider desires it.
ASA comes with two modes, namely M and D. Both, we're promised, deliver "perfectly executed gear changes with a smooth interruption of traction", and that translates into more efficient acceleration and stability. But there are key differences between the two as well.
When in M mode, ASA allows riders to make gear changes whenever they see fit by using the foot pedal, but with some assistance from the system if there’s a need for it. More specifically, if the engine's revs are in the target area, gear shift occurs directly. But if the numbers don't fit, the system takes over downshifting even in M mode. This, says BMW, should help prevent stalling.
When in D, the system decides when to perform gear changes, depending on riding mode, engine revs, throttle position and lean angle parameters.
Either way, the tech pretty much eliminates the clutch lever from the equation, as the operation of this particular system is performed at all times by the ASA.
Because of this, says BMW, some of the most annoying things associated with a manual clutch are eliminated. Say bye to the jolt one feels when shifting up, or to the occasional bumping of helmets between rider and passenger. And gone is the roughness of the ride one feels from time to time when downshifting.
The way the system works its magic on the clutch is pretty simple. One of the actuators I mentioned earlier springs into action and engages the clutch as soon as the control unit receives a shift request detected by a gearshift lever sensor, which in turn is activated by the conventional foot-operated gearshift lever.
BMW says ASA perfectly integrates with some of the systems its bikes usually come with, including riding modes, active cruise control, or the front collision warning system.
There are a number of advantages ASA brings to the table, one of the most important of them being, of course, the removal of the clutch lever from the equation. Then comes the fact that gear shift sequences are very precise, and there should be no more stalling.
Above all of that, however, is the fact that ASA is a sort of two-in-one system, allowing the rider a choice between using a manual tranny or an automated one.
The tech is an evolution of the existing Shift Assistant Pro, but we're not given any indication as to when it will become available for customers, or what bikes will get it. The bike maker does mention "the powerful boxer engine" when talking about this tech, and that had us thinking about the R range.
We'll keep an eye out for developments on this topic, and update the story appropriately.
 
Yep...

 
When in M mode, ASA allows riders to make gear changes whenever they see fit by using the foot pedal, but with some assistance from the system if there’s a need for it. More specifically, if the engine's revs are in the target area, gear shift occurs directly. But if the numbers don't fit, the system takes over downshifting even in M mode.

That's a NOPE for me.

My biggest complaint with ANY of these systems is the computer override. If I want to do something stupid, LET ME.

I'll keep my "M mode" as an ACTUAL manual, thank you.
 
That's a NOPE for me.

My biggest complaint with ANY of these systems is the computer override. If I want to do something stupid, LET ME.

I'll keep my "M mode" as an ACTUAL manual, thank you.
So you're ok with a downshift which would put your engine in valve/piston interference over-rev? I suppose you're not a fan of ABS or traction control either.
 
So you're ok with a downshift which would put your engine in valve/piston interference over-rev? I suppose you're not a fan of ABS or traction control either.
Or, more accurately on a motorcycle, instant loss of rear traction AND over-rev...
 
There goes those slow speed cone courses using the friction zone?
I had an AT with DCT for about 6 years. Although it isn't the same, you learn to use the rear brake in conjunction with the throttle for low speed maneuvering. It takes quite a bit of getting used to. I still never felt comfortable loading it on a trailer....used to scare the hell out of me.
 
I had an AT with DCT for about 6 years. Although it isn't the same, you learn to use the rear brake in conjunction with the throttle for low speed maneuvering. It takes quite a bit of getting used to. I still never felt comfortable loading it on a trailer....used to scare the hell out of me.
After 30 years of using the friction zone in slow speed practice, I'm not sure I have the time left to "relearn" a different system. Why would I want to when there's a decade left of riding at most?

Younger guys want to relearn a new set of slow speed skills, fine by me.
 
After 30 years of using the friction zone in slow speed practice, I'm not sure I have the time left to "relearn" a different system. Why would I want to when there's a decade left of riding at most?

Younger guys want to relearn a new set of slow speed skills, fine by me.
Agreed. There's a reason I "had an AT DCT" :rofl
 
That's a NOPE for me.

My biggest complaint with ANY of these systems is the computer override. If I want to do something stupid, LET ME.

I'll keep my "M mode" as an ACTUAL manual, thank you.
I've been riding 50 years and I still screw it up. I'll take the help to prevent exploding things.

Stupid things are still stupid things.

Your mileage may vary
 
After 30 years of using the friction zone in slow speed practice, I'm not sure I have the time left to "relearn" a different system. Why would I want to when there's a decade left of riding at most?

Younger guys want to relearn a new set of slow speed skills, fine by me.
Because it might help me ride better and there's always time for that. I could see covering another 100K miles in the next decade.

I'm gonna be 66 and I feel that if I don't keep my skills current and sharp, that may leave the woman I love a widow. Maybe not low speed stuff, but I've always wanted every advantage and skill i could gather. Motorcycles are potentially deadly so I approach it from a literal "life or death" perspective.

We all have our perspectives. I wanted to share mine. No offense.
 
Because it might help me ride better and there's always time for that. I could see covering another 100K miles in the next decade.

I'm gonna be 66 and I feel that if I don't keep my skills current and sharp, that may leave the woman I love a widow. Maybe not low speed stuff, but I've always wanted every advantage and skill i could gather. Motorcycles are potentially deadly so I approach it from a literal "life or death" perspective.

We all have our perspectives. I wanted to share mine. No offense.
Nearly every Harley rider demonstrates they don't have command of their motors. There's MORE people who don't have command of their motors than otherwise. That includes GW's, RT riders, etc.

Having command of my motor is deemed very important to me, having ridden for 30+ years before actually learning how to control the motor in the first police motor school. Will I voluntarily give up that control going to honda's dct or the new beemer auto clutch, hell not. Far too many years of being able to command the bike to my bidding ingrained after the last 30 years [ two police motor schools, the second as a refresher course ].
 
No doubt some don’t have the skills to ride a manual shift bike safely, but I think this is just an easy way for BMW to counter Honda’s more complex DCT offering.

This “technology” is not new. Several motorcycle manufacturers have sold automatic bikes in the past, but the take rates were never high enough to justify their continuance in product lines.

Maybe it’s just a different market now, with older riders and greater acceptance of rider aids to compensate for declining general ability, or maybe it’s just because these aids are becoming common in cars. Regardless, the market will decide.

Either way, I just hope it’s reliable …
 
Nearly every Harley rider demonstrates they don't have command of their motors. There's MORE people who don't have command of their motors than otherwise. That includes GW's, RT riders, etc.

Having command of my motor is deemed very important to me, having ridden for 30+ years before actually learning how to control the motor in the first police motor school. Will I voluntarily give up that control going to honda's dct or the new beemer auto clutch, hell not. Far too many years of being able to command the bike to my bidding ingrained after the last 30 years [ two police motor schools, the second as a refresher course ].
I took the slow speed course with the Alameda County Sheriff's department. They let us rent old KZ1000 Police Specials from them for the course

I've been to a bunch of track days and ride some gnarly, twisty, bumpy curvy goat trails as my regular, but a full day of low speed cone work was about the hardest day of riding in my life.
 
I took the slow speed course with the Alameda County Sheriff's department. They let us rent old KZ1000 Police Specials from them for the course

I've been to a bunch of track days and ride some gnarly, twisty, bumpy curvy goat trails as my regular, but a full day of low speed cone work was about the hardest day of riding in my life.
Before I could be assigned as a motor officer, it was 160 hours [ 4 weeks ] of that training. I'd not be willing to give up all that training for a dct clutch made by anyone if it's going to be two wheels.

When I move to a trike in a few years, an auto clutch won't be an issue.
 
Before I could be assigned as a motor officer, it was 160 hours [ 4 weeks ] of that training. I'd not be willing to give up all that training for a dct clutch made by anyone if it's going to be two wheels.

When I move to a trike in a few years, an auto clutch won't be an issue.
I took the "intermediate" course. It had a couple killer obstacles but my most challenging was a decreasing radius spiral with a box in the middle that was just about the size of the bike and not much bigger. I must have reset those cones a half dozen times after falling on them. :ha

I've already bought a sports car for next time; one with a 6 speed stick. :D
 
Best anti-theft device is a manual transmission....
I'd like to keep my clutch lever just fine, specially off-roading. So I am out on the slush box for a motorcycle. JMHO YMMV
 
I took the "intermediate" course. It had a couple killer obstacles but my most challenging was a decreasing radius spiral with a box in the middle that was just about the size of the bike and not much bigger. I must have reset those cones a half dozen times after falling on them. :ha

I've already bought a sports car for next time; one with a 6 speed stick. :D
I've been able to make 18' turns and figure 8's for a long time, but I don't even practice those much anymore. Today?, 20' diameter circles/8's are good enough.

Any time I've purchased another motor, it's taken straight to a vacant parking lot for about an hour getting a feel for the motor and balance of the bike. When I picked up the RT, 20's were immediately available and maybe 30 minutes later a few 18's successfully.

My 16RS is harder to make the 18's than the RT or my GS was by a long shot. Not sure why but as long as I can easily do 20's, I'm fine. Many times when getting ready to ride, I'll stop at a church parking lot down the street and do 10-15 minutes of slow speed work, then I'm ready to meet the day on the motor. I got that idea from a motor officer during an event I attended who told me that dept has a cone course set up in their back area and most motor riders will do 10 minutes there before heading out to work their shift. I thought that was a great idea.
 
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