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2024 National Rally: REDMOND Oregon
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glenfiddich
TravelsWithBarley.com
Glenlivet and I just got a room at the Super 8 in Redmond. As usual, we’ll cancel if the weather is conducive to camping on site.
With him getting up there in age I’m not sure if we’ll ride across the country again. Heat and humuggity aren’t our cup of tea. If we take the old Xterra we’ll explore backcountry Utah the month of May, then work our way north for the annual family reunion
With him getting up there in age I’m not sure if we’ll ride across the country again. Heat and humuggity aren’t our cup of tea. If we take the old Xterra we’ll explore backcountry Utah the month of May, then work our way north for the annual family reunion
lee
Debbie's Servant
When I checked rates close to the rally I was seeing $140 to $200.
lee
Debbie's Servant
We feel like we're getting a bargain now if we find a place under $100Sadly $150+ is the new normal for motel rates just about anywhere, including the mom & pop's. If the motel is in a popular location the rates quickly go to $200+.
For those of you who want to camp but would like something better than a tent, I recommend reserving one of the cabins at La Pine state park. I have no idea how far out you can reserve, but I've stayed in the little cabins and it was great. And cheap. Admittedly, La Pine SP is about 40 miles south of the fairgrounds but it is next to the Deschutes river.
jammess
Jammess
La Pine?? I guess if you like traffic La pine is a nice town. However, to get to the rally that 40 miles is a drag because you've got to ride through Bend and that ain't pretty. Bend is no longer the small central Oregon town it once was not by a long shot. I see you are from CA so you are used to congestion unlike us native Oregonians. Grrrrrrr..... I've pretty much changed my mind about the Rally because to me Deschutes County isn't worth it. Bend has had a 94% population increase since 1990 and is now at about 103K up from 24K. To think I once thought about retiring there. Since the 2010 rally Bend's population has increased by 40,000 and that's just Bend largely thanks to people from you know where. More Grrrr...
I'm done!
kbasa
Well-known member
103K people isn't a very big city, to be honest.
Sorry if folks like Oregon and want to live there.
gsinnc
Well-known member
Exactly! Heck I’ve attended Nationals in Salt Lake UT, Charleston WV, Des Moines IA and Richmond. All have been great. Coming from Charlotte NC, one of the fastest growing cities, I feel your pain but it sure as heck won’t stop me from attending.
kbasa
Well-known member
I live in the county seat and we're only 65K folks. It's a small city or a big town, depending on your viewpoint, but I can't ever say I feel stifled by it.
I was at Redmond both 10 and 20 years ago and thought it was a cool, beautiful small city/big town that was big enough to have what you need.
But, we all have our preferences, so I get it.
If they had lane splitting, I'd like Oregon a whole lot more. It always takes me a bit to remember that it's not legal to slide up to the front at a traffic light.
Riding through Bend can be a bit of a drag but I figure that most routes for day trips will lead through some congestion at one time or another during the rally. Whaddyagonnado. There are a few modest hotels within walking distance of the venue for those who don't want to ride but who don't want to camp. I'll be staying in Bend and take my chances. I agree, Bend's population growth has been staggering, but keep in mind that for every California buyer there was an Oregon seller. I remember when Sisters was a dusty little burg back in the 60's. Now look at it. Yikes.
jammess
Jammess
Yeah, I remember riding from where I lived at the time near Poulsbo, WA on my R75 (early 70's) down to see my grandparents at Eugene, OR. I left Eugene and proceeded over the mountains and stopped at Sisters. It was a warm day so I stopped for a cool one in Sisters and the. only traffic was an occasional log truck rumbling through town. I spent the night at the Oregon Motel in The Dallas then home the next day. That was when there was only two or maybe three stop lights in Bend. Was a great ride and no traffic with no people. I miss those days a lot. This is not the Oregon I used to know and it makes me sad.
Don’t think it’s just Oregon. It’s the same here in California and everyplace else in the world.
The world population in 1970 was 3.7 billion, now it’s 8 billion. As far as I know, there is no more land than there was in 1970. There are just too many people!!! (and not just in Oregon).
This is not the world I used to know and it makes me sad.
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And……when people move to a new location to “escape” the “problems” of their last location, they want all the same amenities as their last location thus perpetuating the inherent problem(s).Don’t think it’s just Oregon. It’s the same here in California and everyplace else in the world.
The world population in 1970 was 3.7 billion, now it’s 7.7 billion. As far as I know, there is no more land than there was in 1970. There are just too many people!!! (and not just in Oregon).
OM
kbasa
Well-known member
Don’t think it’s just Oregon. It’s the same here in California and everyplace else in the world.
The world population in 1970 was 3.7 billion, now it’s 8 billion. As far as I know, there is no more land than there was in 1970. There are just too many people!!! (and not just in Oregon).
This is not the world I used to know and it makes me sad.
When I was in high school, we had 200M Americans. Now we have 330M, a 50+% expansion in the last 45 years. It's easy to blame it on one state or another, but the fact is that we have done it to ourselves. If a couple have kids, especially if they have more than 2, they have had some role in the crowding folks complain about.
That's how Bend now has 100K people in it. People had kids and those kids have to live somewhere.
If it makes people feel any better, this happened in California back during the Depression and again after WW2, where we had huge influxes of people from other states because there was opportunity to make a living. And so it goes with Oregon and other locales that are complaining about growth. We can't always be "up and to the right" without consequence for our actions.
kbasa
Well-known member
I work for an Austin based company. I have been there for nearly 6 years. 5 years ago, they started crowing about attracting companies from the Bay Area. I started telling them that they might be excited now, but in a few years, they'd have the same problems we have. First, it'd be traffic. Then it would be housing prices soaring. They laughed at me with "Texas is different". I told them they'd see but it was coming and it was going to come fast based on the growth there.
And now, I listen to people complain about the traffic, how they can't find a home they can afford and, because of the increasing disparity in wages, the growing legions of homeless around Austin.
Lather, rinse, repeat in your choice of cities that can attract industry.
gsinnc
Well-known member
Yup !! I used to travel to Austin for business a couple times a year. It was the one place worse than Charlotte when it came to unmanaged growth. They call it progress I guess. If only they would better manage the growth but it seems as though greed and $$ always win. Very sad. All we can do is try and relocate to places ahead of the growth if you prefer a calmer life.
kbasa
Well-known member
Today's news, single family home in the Boston area- $900K
OM
Median home price in my county: $1.5M
Median home price my county in 1999: $640K.
And that's the median.
I dunno how young adults are going to afford to buy something and start creating wealth.
gsinnc
Well-known member
Seems simple to me .... young folks starting out do what WE did starting out. Live in a place you CAN afford which may mean a longer commute or waiting a bit longer to buy that "starter" home. Heck most folks I know can't afford to live in locations where median homes are $1.5M. But it just seems as though folks starting out do not seem to want to "start out" but rather jump right to the top. Homes within a couple miles of downtown Charlotte are well over a million $$ but folks can live 30 min to an hour outside of Uptown and buy a home for $300K.
