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BMW To Kill the Air Cooled Engine
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bikerfish1100
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I thought it was Clydesdale urine. Clydesdales with kidney infections.
that would only be in their high-end "specialty" brews.
It does not surprise me.
I wonder if the other magazine in question is http://bmwmcmag.com/magazine/ who has just taken on Sandy?
Semantics aside the Cam Head attempts to address some of the efficient burning and other emissions issues. It may not be able to get BMW across the new testing hurdles in some markets such as the EU that are going to a test model that attempts to better reflect emissions in the real world than the current dyno testing does. Cool temp concerns would be a bigger issue in those tests that the revised head may not be able to deal with.
In the end ÔÇô
The world did not end when the oil head came into play replacing the pure airhead.
Rather a case of ÔÇô The King is dead long live the King ÔÇô I expect the same if this story is based in fact.
Youre right it's BMW Motorcycle Magazine that MCN is referring to: "Insiders at the Munich development centre let slip to a specialist German BMW magazine that a top-secret project is underway..." The inside info about an upcoming water-cooled boxer is in the Spring issue of BMW Motorcycle Magazine, now available. We have both an article investigating it as well as an interview with Dr. Christian Landerl, Director of Development for BMW Motorcycles, discussing the water-cooled boxer engine specifically as the "Next Generation." Its great reading. Check out the table of contents of our Spring issue on our website.
Sandy
Editor, BMW Motorcycle Magazine
bmwmcmag.com
dlowry
bored, bored ...
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Hey Oldhway, the 1983 Suzuki XN85D Turbo was Air/Oil cooled. Yes, the GSXR was innovative with it's frame, but the engine and suspension technology came from other sources in the Suzuki line-up.
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Personally, I'd welcome a "water" cooled version of the boxer. The engine would still have the ornamental fins on the cylinders that it has today, but in heavy traffic it would keep the engine temperature much cooler than it does today. I've had the oil temp nearly max out during a hot summer's day in traffic and pulled over to let it cool down for a while. Hmm, come to think of it, the Turbo has never gotten as hot as the RT has in traffic...
lkchris
Active member
Why not install the Police oil cooler fan?
rob nye
Ritalin Poster Boy
I thought it was Clydesdale urine. Clydesdales with kidney infections.
As a fellow TDI owner did you know there is a urea tank in the new versions?
Q: What is urea injection?
A: In order to reduce nitrous oxides, the Volkswagen Touareg TDI uses a urea injection process in addition to particulate filters. Urea is a chemical compound that, when used in an exhaust system, creates ammonia and reduces NOx ÔÇô up to 95 percent when it comes to the Touareg TDI.
I understand that in order to get the car imported into the US VW set up the new TDI's with sensors that check the level in the tank. If the urea tank is empty a warning light comes on and you have a specific range before the car is electronically disabled. The urea tank is refilled at the scheduled oil change which is 10,000 miles.
widebmw
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The last airhead was made in December of 1996 is was a 1997 R80GS basic.
Most of the R80GS Basic's went to South Africa.
Visian
look out!!!
ka5ysy
2011 R1200RT
Since this is a BMW board, I would like to say that BMW makes a nice diesel that uses the urea injection also. My X5-35d uses that system and gets 30mpg to boot ! And, it drives like a BMW
Is is OK to tow the R1200R behind the X5 sometime?
rob nye
Ritalin Poster Boy
despite my best effort...
ian
They would have been an instant classic if sold here.
I took a wonderful 50 mile ride on local roads on the PD yesterday. No maps, no gps just random turns for a nice evening ride.
Since this is a BMW board, I would like to say that BMW makes a nice diesel that uses the urea injection also. My X5-35d uses that system and gets 30mpg to boot ! And, it drives like a BMW
Is is OK to tow the R1200R behind the X5 sometime?
Perhaps if I'm really good when my third son graduates from college I'll get one of those X5's.
Right now it's a VW and I love it.
As to the towing the R no hassle from me, I'm looking for a good hitch for the TDI.
Best to have a trailer available to retrieve all those aircooled motorcycles BMW is going to kill or to take cruddy magazines to the recycling station.
Visian
look out!!!
ANDYVH
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Pee in the tank,......no quite. Funny though. The urea used in modern diesels is a specific manufactured blend, not at all like cow pee or the Urea fertilizer (HIGHLY corrosive by the way) you can buy at farm/implement/grainery suppliers. Modern diesels like truck engines will run the urea at about a 20 to 1 ratio, 20 gallons deisel fuel to one ounce of Urea, which is presented into the exhaust stream and burned in the exhaust afterburner.
That would actually be a 2560:1 ratio, if I still understand basic math
The water (liquid) cooled boxer will be coming because there is no other way to address the problems with thermal balance considering the requirements for performance dictated by competitive marketing. As almost all of the heat dissipation takes place in the heads, liquid cooled heads will do.
The last classic vehicle air-cooled vehicle that had a huge following was the Porsche 911 with the flat six. It also changed to liquid cooled (heads) and - surprise, surprise - almost all the fans remained loyal.
lkchris
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That would actually be a 2560:1 ratio, if I still understand basic math
The water (liquid) cooled boxer will be coming because there is no other way to address the problems with thermal balance considering the requirements for performance dictated by competitive marketing. As almost all of the heat dissipation takes place in the heads, liquid cooled heads will do.
The last classic vehicle air-cooled vehicle that had a huge following was the Porsche 911 with the flat six. It also changed to liquid cooled (heads) and - surprise, surprise - almost all the fans remained loyal.
Again--it's noise regulations.
Water is a nice sound absorber.
Porsche made 1000hp aircooled racecar engines with no problems--you can look it up.
Visian
look out!!!
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