Do you want the new R1300 water cooled engine boxer?

[collingsbob]

Today I purchased a windows laptop then downloaded and installed the software for both the GS-911 and HEX ezcan. The topbox, panniers and locks are at the dealers.
Chomping at the bit, despite the fact that it’s 6-8 weeks until I can ride.

 

[helipilot2]

Yes. Planing on buying one soon.

 

[gsinnc]

The 1300GS looks nice (well maybe except for the X-headlight, which I am sure with grow on me) and it is an amazing bike. But for ME there is nothing there that would make me swap out my pristine 2018 R1200GS that I still love. With only 24k miles it is like new.

I may take a hard look at the 1300RT when it's out as my 2016 RT has 53K miles but honestly I still love my RT as well and so far there are no features I feel I MUST have. Actually the opposite ... I like my REAL GPS and not a fan of using the phone app. for my navigation.

If I were in the market for a new bike sure I would look hard at the 1300GS. But I have never been one that needs to have the latest new model just to have one. I find it takes me a year or so to get my bikes all dialed in just the way I want them and once done I tend to keep them around for about 6-8 years or more

 

[ecaho]

If I were interested in an R1300 I'd wait a couple years. I'm too old, cheap, and smart to be a beta tester for BMW. And we aren't even out of the chute with the R1300 before BMW announces that the driveshaft should be replaced at 50,000 miles. On the owner's dime.

 

[Omega Man]

If I were interested in an R1300 I'd wait a couple years. I'm too old, cheap, and smart to be a beta tester for BMW. And we aren't even out of the chute with the R1300 before BMW announces that the driveshaft should be replaced at 50,000 miles. On the owner's dime.

Would you happen to have a link to that driveshaft info?
OM

 

[lee]

Would you happen to have a link to that driveshaft info?
OM

The best I can do is provide the link to download the Rider's manual.

https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/service/manuals/rider-manual.html

When you go to Maintenance Schedule it shows Replace the Universal Shaft at 48,000 miles.

 

[CaptCF]

It's in the owners manual - page 286 in the linked pdf below.

https://manuals.bmw-motorrad.com/manuals/BA-Extern/IN/BA-INTERNET-COM/PDF/R_0M23_RM_0223_07.pdf

 

[brownie0486]

I initially wasn't interested in the 1300. But after seeing review after review it sits lower than a 1250, seems lighter than the 1250 [ if it is I have no idea ] I still don't think I'd buy one. But those non squared panniers/bags are growing on me.

 

[Omega Man]

The best I can do is provide the link to download the Rider's manual.

https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/service/manuals/rider-manual.html

When you go to Maintenance Schedule it shows Replace the Universal Shaft at 48,000 miles.

Thanks Lee et al,
I would have to guess this will be a shock to some……
OM

 

[Omega Man]

Thanks Lee et al,
I would have to guess this will be a shock to some……
OM

I had to do some rooting around-

R1300GS Cardan Shaft Replacement (anyone speaks German?)

On User Manual page 282 is noted that at 80k km (48k miles) is (number 9.) Replace Cardan shaft with a footnote stating (footnote d) referenced to...

www.advrider.com

Looks like 800€
OM

 

[gsinnc]

It's in the owners manual - page 286 in the linked pdf below.

https://manuals.bmw-motorrad.com/manuals/BA-Extern/IN/BA-INTERNET-COM/PDF/R_0M23_RM_0223_07.pdf

The good news for current BMW owners is the shaft replacement will be free at 36K miles. So we get a free shaft and it seems 1300 owner just get "the safe"

One more reason to keep my 2016 and 2018 bikes.


Oh .... and the new 1300 oil change process is slightly more of a PIA with 2 drain plugs and a cartridge filter in place of the spin on. Not a big deal just messy for sure.

 

[lee]

The good news for current BMW owners is the shaft replacement will be free at 36K miles

Is this official now for all BMW models with driveshafts?

 

[gsinnc]

Is this official now for all BMW models with driveshafts?

According to the service bulletin I saw posted it is. I’m headed to my dealer on Tuesday to make the appointment for my 2016 RT with 52k and will get clarification then

 

[lee]

According to the service bulletin I saw posted it is. I’m headed to my dealer on Tuesday to make the appointment for my 2016 RT with 52k and will get clarification then

I saw the attached bulletin but have not heard if it applies to the US.
Hopefully you get a answer from your dealer.

 

[88bmwjeff]

Is this official now for all BMW models with driveshafts?

From what I've heard, this applies to the R1200 LC and R1250 LC models only, and applies to all trims (R, RS, RT, GS, GSA). This does not apply to older models (Hex & Camhead, etc.). With regards to the new R1300, the shaft replacement schedule is about 48,000-50,000 miles and at the cost of the owner. If I'm incorrect, then please correct me.

 

[Omega Man]

Could this driveshaft cost be around a Grand at the dealership?
Could this mean there will be some clean 40K trade-ins on the horizon?
OM

 

[brownie0486]

Could this driveshaft cost be around a Grand at the dealership?
Could this mean there will be some clean 40K trade-ins on the horizon?
OM

That's a nice thought. I'd have a Ted Porter thrown in it like I did my 11RT. It can be rebuilt and costs less money. A 1300 that's in need of a new shaft for a discounted price [ as everyone looking at them will know it's got to be replaced ]. I certainly wouldn't put a new oem in it at more money and not capable of being rebuilt

 

[gsinnc]

From what I've heard, this applies to the R1200 LC and R1250 LC models only, and applies to all trims (R, RS, RT, GS, GSA). This does not apply to older models (Hex & Camhead, etc.). With regards to the new R1300, the shaft replacement schedule is about 48,000-50,000 miles and at the cost of the owner. If I'm incorrect, then please correct me.

That exactly what I understand too.

And BMW has lowered the price of the drive shaft part to $225. That’s for the part so plus labor. That I did confirm at my dealer

 

[marcopolo]

BMW North America issued a Service Information Bulletin in December 2023. BMW has changed the maintenance schedule for all K5X bikes, i.e., wethead boxers (GS/GSA/RT/R/RS). Every 20,000 km (of driveshaft use), the driveshaft is to be tested, and the splines regreased. At 60,000 km, the driveshaft is to be replaced. One would also presume that some drievshafts may fail the test well before they've accumulated 60,000 km of use. If they fail the test, they will be replaced. The Service Bulletin says that this work is covered by warranty. This follows on from the earlier - and still ongoing - service campaign where driveshafts on wethead GSs/GSAs/RT-Ps were tested/replaced. This Service Bulletin has been posted online in a number of forums.

Beginning with model year 2024 bikes, the owners manuals contain these new maintenance requirements, so these periodic driveshaft tests/regreasing of the splines and driveshaft replacement, are at the owner's expense. However, unlike K5X models up to and including model year 2023, the driveshaft replacement interval is 80,000 km (and not 60,000 km).

 

[pglaves]

BMW North America issued a Service Information Bulletin in December 2023. BMW has changed the maintenance schedule for all K5X bikes, i.e., wethead boxers (GS/GSA/RT/R/RS). Every 20,000 km (of driveshaft use), the driveshaft is to be tested, and the splines regreased. At 60,000 km, the driveshaft is to be replaced. One would also presume that some drievshafts may well fail the test well before they've accumulated 60,000 km of use. If they fail the test, they will be replaced. The Service Bulletin says that this work is covered by warranty. This follows on from the earlier - and still ongoing - service campaign where driveshafts on wethead GSs/GSAs/RT-Ps were tested/replaced. This Service Bulletin has been posted online in a number of forums.

Beginning with model year 2024 bikes, the owners manuals contain these new maintenance requirements, so these periodic driveshaft tests/regreasing of the splines and driveshaft replacement, are at the owner's expense. However, unlike K5X models up to and including model year 2023, the driveshaft replacement interval is 80,000 km (and not 60,000 km).

This is very interesting. For many years BMW has not listed certain needed maintenance in its maintenance schedules.. Clutch and driveshaft spline lubrication of classic K bikes and Oilheads is a good example. So every time one of the moto-magazines decided to cost out and publish comparisons of "routine maintenance costs" for the first 50,000 or 100,000 miles of various brands and models the costs for this needed maintenance was omitted. This of course made BMW look better when compared to competing brands. Now at least the cost and needed maintenance is disclosed publicly and in advance.