RYD1WD
New member
There are some wild ideas in this thread...
I kept my bike, had 10 weeks of down time (with two other bikes to ride), got paid $2,500. That's a RDL saddle and a year of payments, and I've been back on my bike for about a month now. Win, win!
On the other hand:
Some folks sold their bike back, got their money less 1% per 1K miles back, and then turned around and bought the same bike back for $2K less than they paid originally, while not qualifying for the NAV/$800 incentive. Time wasted, waited longer to get their bike back, and paid a higher (used) APR if financed. Lose, lose.
Some folks sold their bike back, got their money less 1% per 1K miles back, and made a deposit on a '15 with the same configuration which with the price increase to MSRP, metallic paint, and no option but to take the keyless ride in the first several allocations of '15's are paying $555 more, and waiting several months longer to put a ride under them. If they think they made out on depreciation, they are mistaken. The average difference in NADA trade values between model years for 2011-2013 models is only about $325 a year... and they are going a few more months without a bike. Lose, lose.
Some folks bailed out of deposits on '14's and had them moved to '15's. These folks are paying essentially $1,355 more for the same bike (price increases, no NAV/$800 incentive), and are going without a bike for several months longer. Lose, lose. The folks that took the buy back and made deposits on '15's come out even a little further behind based on mileage, and the possibility of increased APR's.
On the other hand:
The folks who hadn't bought a new RT yet and waited to see how the trade/buy back deals shook out made out VERY WELL. The average sale price is less $2K of MSRP, + the NAV/$800 incentive, and new bike APR's on the trades (used APR's for buy backs). On a loaded RT, assuming an average sales tax of 6% on a bike that has < 1K miles and the first service done, they saved over $3K. And, they are already riding.
Seems the real equity presented itself, in several ways, to those who were patient and didn't try to play the system... IMHO.
I kept my bike, had 10 weeks of down time (with two other bikes to ride), got paid $2,500. That's a RDL saddle and a year of payments, and I've been back on my bike for about a month now. Win, win!
On the other hand:
Some folks sold their bike back, got their money less 1% per 1K miles back, and then turned around and bought the same bike back for $2K less than they paid originally, while not qualifying for the NAV/$800 incentive. Time wasted, waited longer to get their bike back, and paid a higher (used) APR if financed. Lose, lose.
Some folks sold their bike back, got their money less 1% per 1K miles back, and made a deposit on a '15 with the same configuration which with the price increase to MSRP, metallic paint, and no option but to take the keyless ride in the first several allocations of '15's are paying $555 more, and waiting several months longer to put a ride under them. If they think they made out on depreciation, they are mistaken. The average difference in NADA trade values between model years for 2011-2013 models is only about $325 a year... and they are going a few more months without a bike. Lose, lose.
Some folks bailed out of deposits on '14's and had them moved to '15's. These folks are paying essentially $1,355 more for the same bike (price increases, no NAV/$800 incentive), and are going without a bike for several months longer. Lose, lose. The folks that took the buy back and made deposits on '15's come out even a little further behind based on mileage, and the possibility of increased APR's.
On the other hand:
The folks who hadn't bought a new RT yet and waited to see how the trade/buy back deals shook out made out VERY WELL. The average sale price is less $2K of MSRP, + the NAV/$800 incentive, and new bike APR's on the trades (used APR's for buy backs). On a loaded RT, assuming an average sales tax of 6% on a bike that has < 1K miles and the first service done, they saved over $3K. And, they are already riding.
Seems the real equity presented itself, in several ways, to those who were patient and didn't try to play the system... IMHO.