Any paint supplier help for "black",#670?

[KCinSB]

Well, after dropping the bike in the driveway TWICE now, the scratches on the lower fairing are really embaressing. I'd like to repaint the whole bike, '93 K1100RS, or maybe just parts, but so far haven't had any luck finding the paint. Under the seat, there is a color #670 sticker, and the bike is Black from a distance, with green/blue metalic when up closer. Does anyone know what this color is called, or better, bought some somewhere? Two local auto paint supplies don't want to touch it. I haven't tried the dealer yet. I did check the IBMWR tech color listings, but don't see 670 there. KC

 

[BUDDINGGEEZER]

Paint Codes

Try here http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/paintcodes/blacks.htm

Ralph Sims

 

[kitze2]

Check out this link

http://www.carpaintonline.com/paints-byoem.php?OEMCode=670


I went through this myself not too long ago. Before you buy anything confirm that it is a motorcycle that the code is for. I don't know about BMW but Honda uses the same paint code number for bikes and cars. But they are for completely different colors.

 

[jshuck]

black

if it is black.... black is black is black... period. Code 99 Ditzler.

 

[swbell]

i disagree. my '91 black has a green tent in it. I realized this when I was trying to paint a repair I made on the front fender.

 

[kitze2]

if it is black.... black is black is black... period. Code 99 Ditzler.

Jeez, you obviously have never matched paint. I'd bet that any paint supply house has at least 50 different paint formulas listed as some kind of black. My old Suzuki was "Stellar Black", my 442 was "Midnight Black", Dodge used to have a black called "Event Black" maybe a reference to a black holes event horizon.
And the list is endless...

 

[dlearl476]

Why not go to the source?
http://www.glasurit.com/COLOR/new-color-online/m1frameset.php?language=1

Put your info in the magic little boxes and see what comes up.

fwiw, you have to use IE. It won't work with Safari, or at least it won't with Safari on my work Mac.

 

[burnszilla]

if it is black.... black is black is black... period. Code 99 Ditzler.

That's what my painter told me too. If it's just black with no fleck or tints.

 

[dlearl476]

That's what my painter told me too. If it's just black with no fleck or tints.

In that case, I'd say "screw your painter" and go with Krylon "Black".

IIRC correctly from when I was using the Glasurit page to research Motorsport colors, BMW uses a couple of different formulas of black.

BMW ANTHRAZIT 061 1990-1990 *
BMW BLACKSAPPHIRE PERLCOLOR 475 2001-2008 *00/01
BMW BMW SCHWARZ 1995-1997 *95/96
BMW BRONCO MET 088 1977-1990 *
BMW CARBONSCHWARZ MET 416 1998-2008 95/00*99/00
BMW CLASSICSCHWARZ MET 162 1986-1990 *
BMW COSMOSSCHWARZ MET 303 1992-2002 95/00*93/94
BMW DARK GRAPHIT MET 919 2003-2005 *
BMW DIAMANTSCHWARZ MET 181 1984-1996 95/00*90/91
BMW DIOPSIDSCHWARZ MET S44 2004-2008 *05/06
BMW ET SCHWARZ MATT 121 1989-2007 *
BMW JEREZSCHWARZ MET A73 2007-2008 *07/08
BMW MADEIRAVIOLETT MET 302 1991-1998 95/00*93/94
BMW MAGNESIUMSCHWARZ MET M01 2006-2007 *
BMW MAGNESIUMSCHWARZ MET N01 2006-2007 *
BMW NACHTSCHWARZ 103 1993-2007 *97/98
BMW ONYXSCHWARZ MET 228 1986-1990 *
BMW OPAL BLACK PERLCOLOR S12 2004-2008 *
BMW PERLSILBER MET 240 1989-1990 *
BMW POLARIS MET 057 1963-1974 *
BMW PULVER AUSSEN SCHWARZ MATT A45 2004-2008 *
BMW RUBINSCHWARZ MET S23 2004-2008 *05/06
BMW SCHWARZ 102 1976-1990 *
BMW SCHWARZ 168 1990-1990 *
BMW SCHWARZ 1987-1989 *
BMW SCHWARZ 2 668 1989-2008 95/00*
BMW SCHWARZ 2 1989-1998 *90/91
BMW SCHWARZ ANTISCRATCH MATT 466 2000-2001 *
BMW SCHWARZ AVUS 086 1961-1996 *90/91
BMW SCHWARZ MATT 120 1989-2007 *
BMW SCHWARZ MATT 242 1986-1990 *
BMW SCHWARZ MATT F01 10000 1990-2008 *
BMW SCHWARZ MATT 11000 1992-2002 *92/93
BMW SCHWARZ MATT 11004 1993-1993 *93/94
BMW SCHWARZ MET 032 1976-1990 *
BMW SCHWARZ MET 195 1989-1992 *
BMW SCHWARZ MET 1985-1989 *
BMW SCHWARZ MICA 490 FQ95-3151 1993-1993 *
BMW SCHWARZ MICA 490 FE68-940Z 1993-1993 *
BMW SCHWARZ MICA MET 347 1993-1996 95/00*95/96
BMW SCHWARZ MICA MET 1994-1996 95/00*
BMW SCHWARZSILBER MET MATT 898 2002-2005 *02/03
BMW SOFTLACK SCHWARZ 962 2005-2005 *
BMW STRUCKTURMATT SCHWARZ 20126 2001-2007 *
BMW STRUKTURSCHWARZ MATT 20139 2002-2002 *03/04
BMW TIEFSCHWARZ 391 1995-2007 *
BMW TIEFSCHWARZ N11 2007-2007

AFAIK, frames are all BMW SCHWARZ AVUS 086 1961-1996 *90/91

 

[dlearl476]

KC, I had a really good painter I grew up with tell me that if I was matching a small section of a metallic black or grey paint, I was better off having a good paint shop match my paint with their opti-prismatic-laser-gonkulator thing-a-ma-bob. The reason being dark colors fade and dark colors with metal flecks fade at different rates due to the minute difference in quantity of metal flakes from one batch to the next. If it matters, it will take years for paint that is ordered by the "code" and made by the "formula" to match the original paint that has been exposed to the elements for a number of years.

If you're painting the whole bike, no big deal. If you're painting a section, you may want to match what you have so that it wil, uh, match.

 

[kayseventyfive]

KC, I had a really good painter I grew up with tell me that if I was matching a small section of a metallic black or grey paint, I was better off having a good paint shop match my paint with their opti-prismatic-laser-gonkulator thing-a-ma-bob.

I have had horrible luck with those things at the paint shop I use. They just can't get metallics right.

Maybe they need a new opti-prismatic thingee. Or better help. Or maybe I need a new paint shop.

 

[troika]

The color code sticker under the seat references the paint scheme for the entire bike, not the individual panel/wheel/etc colors.

Go to one of the online fiche services, look up your bike, then look at the "painted parts" section. Ususally the paint is shown (even if NLA) with the correct Glasurit number.

For your bike K1100RS in Classic black #670:

The paint listed is: 51919062529 metallic lacquer classic black (250ML 162)

162 is the paint code. Any Glasurit dealer should be able to look it up and mix it.

 

[KCinSB]

Wow! Lots of good info..

Thanks for the replies! I will follow up on all the sites mentioned to see where they lead. Funny how there's always conflict, and I thought I was clear that it wasn't "simple" black, but has metalic in it. I agree, even plain black is not easy. white is always simple, ....until you put it next to a whiter white... same kind of situation with black. Anway, now i have something to go on. KC

 

[SweetT]

Try www.cyclecolor.com

I had some scratches on my Honda and I bought a bottle of matched touch up paint from them for $20. Just tell them the paint code and they can mix some up for you. The paint is a urethane base coat, so if you decide to spray it on it will need to be clearcoated in order for it to look good. If you just have some small scratches, the touch up paint has a brush built into the cap.
here's what I've done in the past on my Honda I touched up: I had to go to the paint shop and buy some urethane reducer so I could spray it through my air brush that I use for model airplanes and stuff. You could also go to a hobby shop and buy a "make your own spraypaint" kit for about $25. Some specialty auto tool shops and catalogs sell a refillable spray can that would work too.
I cleaned, prepped, and masked the surface and sprayed it.
Then after it had dried overnight I sanded it with squares cut from a paper grocery bag which is equal to about 1500 grit sandpaper. Then I sprayed it with Krylon Clear enamel.

The results are really good considering I'm not a painter. You've got to get within a couple feet in direct light to tell that I touched it up.