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mzeitz

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Ok, before I begin I would like to state a couple of things up front that I am assuming as fact, namely: There's no compelling reason to modify the factory exhaust system, doing so will result in no improvement in engine performance, loud exhausts are mostly just annoying, and removing or defeating emission control equipment is both illegal and bad for the environment.

With that disclaimer out of the way, I was able to acquire a complete used 1100 exhaust, from the headers to the muffler for a measly 100 bucks, so partly just to satisfy my curiosity and with a view toward possibly building a straight pipe system up to the stock muffler for off road use :| I commenced cutting it apart yesterday. What I saw I found interesting and figured I would share in case anyone was ever curious what was inside there.

I assumed that the exhaust first flows through what looks to be a fairly large catalytic converter, through a muffler and then out the tailpipe. What I found is that there are actually three separate chambers with a fairly complex path for the exhaust to get from A to B. Some photos for visual reference:

First exploratory cut:
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Looking toward the catalyst chamber. The perforated pipe dead ends there.
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The same two pipes in what I'm calling the intermediate chamber:
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This is the catalyst itself - it's actually pretty small.
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This is the inlet side of the muffler:
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So the exhaust enters through the catalyst into the open cat chamber, then into a pipe which goes into the open chamber of the muffler (bypassing the second chamber) through the pipe on the upper right of the last photo. It then filters through a perforated pipe backward out the port (on the left above) into the intermediate chamber, where it filters into a smaller perforated pipe (seen in the first two photos) which send its 180 degrees back again, not into but through the muffler (lower, smaller diameter pipe above) and direct to the outlet. There is no sound deadening material at all that I could see. I'm not an expert in acoustics or fluid dynamics or, well anything really, but I assume all this is to reduce the velocity and/or pressure as well as to create areas where some wave interference can tune out or dampen certain frequencies (?)

Anyway, all this is just offered as a curiosity mostly. I will probably run my inlet pipe from where the cat used to be and add a section to the body of the muffler to create a chamber where the exhaust can loop back from the inlet tube to the outlet tube. Again, all this is just an experiment; if I like the way it runs and sounds I may leave it (for off road use) and if not I still will have my original, entire unmolested exhaust system that I can swap back on in ten minutes or so.
 
Interesting :thumb
The actual "cat" has fairly high scrap value to to the speciality metals inside....... If you happen to be near a metals recycling yard.
OM
 
Interesting :thumb
The actual "cat" has fairly high scrap value to to the speciality metals inside....... If you happen to be near a metals recycling yard.
OM

I believe it’s also generally considered hazardous waste calling for proper handling. Certainly wouldn’t want to breathe in any particulates from it.

Best,
DeVern
 
I believe it’s also generally considered hazardous waste calling for proper handling. Certainly wouldn’t want to breathe in any particulates from it.

Best,
DeVern

About a decade or so ago I worked with over the road trucks when the latest tier of diesel emission laws were coming into effect and I've seen a variety of different catalyst configurations - the ones with the ceramic type substrate (not sure exactly what the material is) are particularly nasty if the stuff is damaged or breaks down and should be treated like asbestos. This one is just metal - platinum or palladium or some combination. The oxides (if that's the correct term) as they break down due to corrosion can leach out and result in heavy metals in the soil, water, etc so bad from that standpoint. I'm not doing anything further with it anyway, and I will dispose of it properly.
 
For what it's worth, I removed the cat from my 1100S, replaced it with a straight pipe and didn't notice any significant difference either in sound or driveability.
 
For what it's worth, I removed the cat from my 1100S, replaced it with a straight pipe and didn't notice any significant difference either in sound or driveability.

Good to know - how did you adapt to the stock muffler, or did you go with a different muffler?
 
Good to know - how did you adapt to the stock muffler, or did you go with a different muffler?

I took the easy route - bought a cat eliminator pipe online. This allowed me to retain the two other parts of the stock system. The R1100S, being the superlative motorcycle that it is :)D) , has a bolt-together exhaust system which allows for individual replacement of the header, the cat, and the twin muffler assembly.

This what I used.... https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/danmoto-cat-eliminator-mid-pipe-bmw-r1100s-1997-2006
 
I took the easy route - bought a cat eliminator pipe online. This allowed me to retain the two other parts of the stock system. The R1100S, being the superlative motorcycle that it is :)D) , has a bolt-together exhaust system which allows for individual replacement of the header, the cat, and the twin muffler assembly.

This what I used.... https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/danmoto-cat-eliminator-mid-pipe-bmw-r1100s-1997-2006

Ohhhh, I see. I just googled photos of the S exhaust, that's actually a pretty nifty looking system. Also came across a used Staintune dual muffler setup for the 1100S, hmmm....
 
Great pictures! Thank you for the post.
I looked into a cat eliminator straight pipe, but never found one for my 1997 RS. Does anyone have a source for one of those?
Thought about going to a custom muffler shop and just getting one fabbed? Easy? Maybe 300 bucks?
Not looking for performance, just less weight and better looking.
 
Thought about going to a custom muffler shop and just getting one fabbed? Easy? Maybe 300 bucks? Not looking for performance, just less weight and better looking.

With the exhause off the bike, that should be easy work for an exhaust fabrication specialist.

The concern I had with the Oiler cats were that they were big and flat and hung a couple of millimetres below the transmission. So I had a full Remus header system installed on my 1150 (and on my Hexhead).
 
Great pictures! Thank you for the post.
I looked into a cat eliminator straight pipe, but never found one for my 1997 RS. Does anyone have a source for one of those?
Thought about going to a custom muffler shop and just getting one fabbed? Easy? Maybe 300 bucks?
Not looking for performance, just less weight and better looking.

I don't think I've ever seen anything for my R either - if yours is like mine and all one piece from the collector back then you'll have to decide how to plumb it because it loops through the muffler and back through the cat section again before the exhaust exits. It's not as simple as connecting to the inlet tube on the muffler (unless you connect it to the small tube but then you don't have a muffler at all anymore). It's also all stainless pipe which is going to be a little more spendy than regular mild steel exhaust tube and it seems to be a metric size - something around 50mm I think, although 2" should be close enough.
 
Did you do anything to the intake side ...fuel air issues?

I had already installed a San Jose BMW intake snorkel and K&N filter. No issues at all after the cat removal. A couple of years later I installed an AF- XIED just because I had heard good things about it. It performed as advertised.
 
1997 R1100 RS Exhaust

Working on exhaust. Had a plastic bag blow up against it in a parking lot, while exhaust was hot! Left a terrible stain.
Anyway. My 97 RS has a two piece exhaust. Headers + collector attaches to Cat + Muffler. I can't just cut out the cat. Would need a crossover pipe, just right size and length, and then a new muffler hung and clamped in just the right position. Could be done. Not worth it to me. Original works fine.
Mano, mano, Manischewitz is it heavy!!! If I got rid of it, the cycle would operate significantly better.
And just to contribute a little more to the exhaust thread- the bottom two attachment points on the cat had broken rubber isolators. (90k miles) I'm going to repair them and probable get rid of a lot of vibration.


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