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Thank you for that reminder. I have recently moved to Front Range CO from Northern California and had forgot about that possibility though I read about it I think probably in Proficient Motorcycling.
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BMW's Too top heavy for older riders?
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Thank you for that reminder. I have recently moved to Front Range CO from Northern California and had forgot about that possibility though I read about it I think probably in Proficient Motorcycling.
Trying to place it as am familiar with 99.9% of slip-n-slides in area...vertically and a few horizontally challenged crossings
The low water crossing was a road that run parallel to hwy 71 East of Spicewood.
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Ahah, Krause Springs area past Opies BBQ.
Had navigated that on my HD a few times with no consequence many years back.
Then, riding with H after we met and me on a higher center of gravity RT showed my awesome sliding skills as she watched from the higher ground on her R...laughing
That crossing is always slick being shaded by cypress trees and trying to pick my bike up in the middle of that was quite the chore with zero traction
That wasn't me...that was some old guy I was quoting...I don't need no low water crossings to drop my bike...I can do it anywhere!
lee
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It's hard to avoid low water crossings in the Texas Hill Country
Sometimes we turn around
It's hard to avoid low water crossings in the Texas Hill Country
Sometimes we turn around
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What is the recommended procedure or rule of thumb when encountering these water crossings on a motorcycle?
lee
Debbie's Servant
Hard to say.
It depends on the velocity and the depth.
Another thing to consider is how long water has been over the road. If it's been over the road for quite a few days it probably has some slime starting to grow on the road surface.
Shallow and not much velocity like this picture is not much trouble.
I think this is the crossing I felt the front end weave a bit.
I don't know if it was the current or me going too fast.
This is my wife in the picture.
We turned around on this one because I thought the water was running too fast.
A friend went through and he said the bike moved sideways a little.
The one in post #248 I didn't even think about trying to go through it.
lee
Debbie's Servant
Just stopping to watch the water and take pictures.
When we're in the Hill Country we're just out doing day rides and it's not a big deal to turn around and take a different road.
We avoid riding at night down there because of the critters. If you do ride at night you need to be very careful if there's storms in the area that may put deep fast water across these crossings.
Timely posted in this thread which “I” really read as large/heavy bikes vs small/lighter bikes. The “mass” of the heavier bikes requires more torque to the wheels increasing the chance of wheel slippage than the lighter bikes. Easy to test with a ride on a light dirt bike.
I’m not sure where the quote came from- but I agree, “There is no such thing as a quarter-ton dirt bike”.
As one moves from a lighter to a heavier bike or heavier to lighter bike, throwing in a bit of older age
the ability to control a bike with “body english” really starts to change. Of course, YMMV
OM
lee
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brownie0486
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Concrete slabs under running water, I stop to check if the surface is smoothed or left rough enough to still get grip on the tires even with a little slime on the surface. I got off the bike a few times and walked into the middle of the flow to check the available traction/surface condition.
Riding a slight slime covered road can't be any worse that running those steel bridges with Heidenau K60's or knobbies. Those bridges in Ak. near gave me heart attacks and the bike was always moving laterally under me [ sliding ] sometime an inch or two at a time with no control over the bike [ just had to go with the flow, sorta speak . Actually felt like I was sliding on the steel. Now with road tires, those bridges I cross locally don't affect the bike at all.
So, summarizing from my observations and experience, it's a combo of how rough the surface is under the water [ not so much the thin coat of slime ] and what tires you're running at that time. Fast moving water, I'll try to take that area at a slight oblique, front of the tire pointed more into the flow that perpendicular.
Riding a slight slime covered road can't be any worse that running those steel bridges with Heidenau K60's or knobbies. Those bridges in Ak. near gave me heart attacks and the bike was always moving laterally under me [ sliding ] sometime an inch or two at a time with no control over the bike [ just had to go with the flow, sorta speak
. Actually felt like I was sliding on the steel. Now with road tires, those bridges I cross locally don't affect the bike at all. So, summarizing from my observations and experience, it's a combo of how rough the surface is under the water [ not so much the thin coat of slime ] and what tires you're running at that time. Fast moving water, I'll try to take that area at a slight oblique, front of the tire pointed more into the flow that perpendicular.
Try this bridge! Kinsey bridge outside of Miles City MT. The motorcycle tire will climb out of one congregation and hop into the next. The fun part is when the rear tire doesn't follow and you ride in two different corrugations! Four of us rode across it a few years ago. I was the only one willing to go back across it!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/montanatom1950/5708578643
https://www.flickr.com/photos/montanatom1950/5708578643
Fast moving water can quickly erode ditches in the pavement. They usually start on the water's out going edge and erode back toward the center/other side. While this happen very fast on dirt roads, pavement does slow it happening but when it does the ditch is deep enough to drop a front wheel in it.
Go slow and look for this happening.
Go slow and look for this happening.
pglaves
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I would go right down the middle on the cross ties.
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