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He looks like a happy camper, Papa Chuy!
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I'm going to agree with Beemerdons on this one. I think there is a glut of K1600's because the word is getting out that they have a lot more in the way of problems than they should. Now some of these sitting K1600's could be extra-ordered bikes in anticipation of greater sales, but I don't think so. There have been a number of K1600 owners that have switched to another model BMW or have just flat given up and moved to a different manufacturer. There are also any number of potential K1600 buyers who have decided not to take the chance of getting a good one and have gone elsewhere. No one wants to drop $27,000.00 on a motorcycle that has the track record of the K1600. If customer complaints don't get the attention of the Mothership, perhaps a bunch of their unsold top tier motorcycles will. The whole mess is a disgrace to supporters of BMW it should be an equal disgrace to Corporate BMW.
Rick
Your comments contain nothing about facts; it does use wording such as "I think there is", "could be" and "but I don't think so". Other than SWAG's do you possess proof of any type or is this all about conjecture?
Since you have experience with repairing BMWs, what is your experience?
Your comments contain nothing about facts; it does use wording such as "I think there is", "could be" and "but I don't think so". Other than SWAG's do you possess proof of any type or is this all about conjecture?
One, it shouldn't weep at all, two, I'd bet that some down here in hell had a different experience than you in terms of going 3K miles. Just saying. I think it's been pretty much a show stopper. Don can elaborate, but the failure rate of water pumps on K1600s sold in AZ was quite high.
I have had one pump replaced and my second one has been seeping now for over 10k miles. I just returned from a 5k mile trip knowing my pump was seeping. I took a few ounces of coolant to top off the reservoir as required. I needed it once...a 5 minute job. I don't like it and it shouldn't be happening but it just isn't a big deal to me. I haven't heard of a total pump failure yet but I could just have my head in the sand...
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Like I said, Don can elaborate. Thing is, is it normal to have 2 water pump failures on a new bike? I don't think it's normal to have to add coolant to a relatively new bike, especially one that cost over 25K and that is another failure. Modern engines are tight for both oil and antifreeze. It baffles me why a BMW would have this problem considering what the buy in is. I'd expect this from a 1955 Bel Air.
I agree with you but at the end of the day it is about the total package to me. Everything else about the bike makes this a blip on the radar of love. I consider myself lucky because, after 25k miles, I haven't had most of the other issues plaguing owners (clunking, left pull, bad switches, etc...).
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Until you are stuck on 89, 150 miles from the closest dealer and it's over 100 degrees out. Just saying. I am not a true believer. Not enough to accept that. Just saying.
Until you are stuck on 89, 150 miles from the closest dealer and it's over 100 degrees out. Just saying. I am not a true believer. Not enough to accept that. Just saying.
Well Billy, since I am not a BMW sales rep nor am I at all connected to the Mothership, no I don't have any direct proof. Do you have anything to counter my comments? Have you AT ALL researched the K1600 to see what owners are saying about the bike and more importantly what potential owners have to say?
I have owned two GTL's to this point and both have had similar issues. In other words I have put my money where my mouth is. Doesn't it at all strike you as somewhat odd that a year or so ago you couldn't find an unsold K1600 sitting in a dealership and now they are all over the place?
Doesn't it strike you as somewhat odd that we are now in the middle of June which should be prime time for motorcycle sales and there are a sizable number of K1600's still unsold?
Doesn't it strike you as somewhat odd that BMW came out with a sales incentive on the K1600 IN MAY to help sell that bike?
So I take back what I said, yes I do have facts to support my claim.....those facts are all the unsold K1600's sitting on dealership floors in the middle of June.
Your comments remind me of a friend of my Dad who really liked the Ford Edsel and he used to get all bent out of shape when people would tell him it was a piece of junk. I remember him slapping the back of his hands saying"give me facts"!
Rick