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Sidecar Training at the 2011 Rally
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grafikfeat
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In lieu of "certified training" why not have a talk or two over the course of the rally?
A place for sidecarists to gather and compare notes/rigs/technique etc.
Perhaps even answer a few questions of the newly ordained or overtly curious.
Schedule a ride, give rides, judged show, play games... Waddeva...
Minimally make it known that hacks are a part of the MOA and the rally experience.
Why does it have to be 'training'?
Why not a seminar/talk/show to introduce folks to the benefits etc.
After reading the quoted posts... See where I was going with this, what I meant? Time Constraints.
It would take 3 days for 'Training' as GTRider noted as well.
Now, I'm not speaking for anyone but who would spend 3 out of a 4 day rally in classes?
And even if 10-15 people did... Would a class at the MOA Rally be recognized for an endorsement in another State?
I don't know. I'm just putting it out there.
Regardless... Just work w/ what time there is...
Hence my comment: "Why does it have to be 'training'?"
Why not an Intro to side caring type format?
Perhaps given by like minded enthusiasts/owners of rigs.
Those who like what they see/learn will continue the pursuit in their own respective state.
dmaust01
Mark A.
Good point. If there are any sidecar enthusiasts that are interested in organizing a seminar on the issue, please contact the seminar chair or let me know.
I would think that the sidecar riders that are attending the Rally would be interested in the advanced course that is offered under the S/TEP 8 hr. course.
http://www.esc.org/motorcycle.php
http://www.esc.org/motorcycle.php
grafikfeat
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...and answering questions, giving rides, talking with each other and a bit of 'how to' on setup/wrenching/tweaking the rig(s).
Oh, and also having some fun and camaraderie...
Regardless, anyone willing can pretty much set up a lesson plan/discussion with a yellow book and PM Dave's OK.
RPU and Sidecar Driver Education and Training
Pretty good thread: As the Rider Education Coordinator, I would welcome the opportunity to offer sidecar training and/or education at the Blomsburg Rally. I confess that this opportunity simply did not occur to me, and while it's late in the game, I'm certainly open to formal on-machine training and/or classroom education for hackers.
At this point, RPU would very likely NOt consider the MSF's 3BRC, since it specifically excludes sidecars, and is designed exclusively for trikes of both configurations. S/TEP would be wonderful, if the logistics could be worked out in time - could be problematic, but I'll look into it this week, once the desk is cleared a bit.
We would certainly be very open to using David L. Hough's material for a workshop; I would need a good facilitator, someone S/TEP qualifed, or a S/TEP student would be a good choice. It would be a gret opportunity to promote the sale of Hough's sidecar work, a very good treatise on the subject, and to utilize theo work of the one of our valuable assets, premier Foundation supporter David Hough.
Input solited directly to me at: roger@rogerwiles.com
As an aside, we all have our oprinions and positions about the various rider education and training firms, organizations, curricula et al, and that's fine. Readers may note that RPU embraces a Big Tent approach, welcoming ALL sound course- and curricula-providers to the Bloomsburg Rally and all RPU events. You may note that in addition to the MSF's BRC-2 and ARC, we will be offering Total Control and Stayin' Safe LLC. We hoped to add another providerer, who withdrew at the last moment.
And, we DID approach TEAM Oregon prior to the Redmond Rally and asked if they would like to present their intermediate and/or advance curriculum in Redmond; TEAM Oregon declined, citing a lack of resourses.
So, those with emotionally-driven opinions about the subect may well continue to shape the facts to jibe with their positons, but those with open minds about the matter may see a different picture. From my point of view, our activities should be about the RIDER, not a competition or dogfight about the 'best' curricula or provider - or the 'worst.' My. $.02
Sling and arrows expected...
Roger Wiles Rider Education Coordinator
Pretty good thread: As the Rider Education Coordinator, I would welcome the opportunity to offer sidecar training and/or education at the Blomsburg Rally. I confess that this opportunity simply did not occur to me, and while it's late in the game, I'm certainly open to formal on-machine training and/or classroom education for hackers.
At this point, RPU would very likely NOt consider the MSF's 3BRC, since it specifically excludes sidecars, and is designed exclusively for trikes of both configurations. S/TEP would be wonderful, if the logistics could be worked out in time - could be problematic, but I'll look into it this week, once the desk is cleared a bit.
We would certainly be very open to using David L. Hough's material for a workshop; I would need a good facilitator, someone S/TEP qualifed, or a S/TEP student would be a good choice. It would be a gret opportunity to promote the sale of Hough's sidecar work, a very good treatise on the subject, and to utilize theo work of the one of our valuable assets, premier Foundation supporter David Hough.
Input solited directly to me at: roger@rogerwiles.com
As an aside, we all have our oprinions and positions about the various rider education and training firms, organizations, curricula et al, and that's fine. Readers may note that RPU embraces a Big Tent approach, welcoming ALL sound course- and curricula-providers to the Bloomsburg Rally and all RPU events. You may note that in addition to the MSF's BRC-2 and ARC, we will be offering Total Control and Stayin' Safe LLC. We hoped to add another providerer, who withdrew at the last moment.
And, we DID approach TEAM Oregon prior to the Redmond Rally and asked if they would like to present their intermediate and/or advance curriculum in Redmond; TEAM Oregon declined, citing a lack of resourses.
So, those with emotionally-driven opinions about the subect may well continue to shape the facts to jibe with their positons, but those with open minds about the matter may see a different picture. From my point of view, our activities should be about the RIDER, not a competition or dogfight about the 'best' curricula or provider - or the 'worst.' My. $.02
Sling and arrows expected...
Roger Wiles Rider Education Coordinator
grafikfeat
New member
Lacking any opportunity for formalized training, there certainly isn't any reason we can't gather together on our own, discuss techniques, and even find someplace to practice under each other's watchful glare.
I mean gaze
--chiba
Eggsackery!
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angysdad
Guest
I'm all for training. If that is not possible, a 'gathering' would be fun. Maybe someone who knows the site could suggest a time/place.
I rarely get to talk to hackers in person as we are so few.
Would love to meet you all!
I rarely get to talk to hackers in person as we are so few.
Would love to meet you all!
grafikfeat
New member
I rode around one eve the last rally and put notes on the tanks of all the R1200C's that I saw to meet at the beer tent one eve at a certain time.
From there we got rides together etc.
In the future ask that an area be set aside for such a request...
Training/talks... etc.
grafikfeat
New member
ted
Dum vivimus vivamus
I did not see any mention of sidecar training at the rally - I am guessing no-one volunteered, or put significant effort into finding an enthusiast willing to volunteer, to put the time and effort into making it happen. As Ian Schmeisser would tell anyone were he not so modest, it does take a tremendous amount of time and usually a real interest, to develop and run events for specific types of bikes at a rally.
grafikfeat
New member
Well..here's an opportunity to get the ball rolling for the next Rally as far as getting sidecar training on the sked..hint
That's why I
it...I would think anyone w/ David L. Hough's Yellow book and an awesome set of cones could get something going a few hours each day...
grafikfeat
New member
Mr. R. Wiles here you go here's a chance to put a feather in your cap and also get a sidecar training program going at the next rally in Missouri as well.
From the Missouri Safety Program site:
Trike and Sidecar Courses
The Missouri Motorcycle Safety Program is currently seeking a sponsor for three-wheeled motorcycle training. An unobstructed 200ÔÇÖ x 300ÔÇÖ riding area is required. Sponsors must also provide a minimum of three rigs for student use. Anyone interested in opening a three-wheeled training course should contact the MMSP state coordinator at 660.543.8005.
From the Missouri Safety Program site:
Trike and Sidecar Courses
The Missouri Motorcycle Safety Program is currently seeking a sponsor for three-wheeled motorcycle training. An unobstructed 200ÔÇÖ x 300ÔÇÖ riding area is required. Sponsors must also provide a minimum of three rigs for student use. Anyone interested in opening a three-wheeled training course should contact the MMSP state coordinator at 660.543.8005.
