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/ Mod hat on /
Kent -
It would be best all the way around if you would provide more insight on your comments rather than just throw down a lawn sausage and walk off. Care to enlighten us as to your thought process??
/ Mod hat off /
Wellston wrote:
"if you were paying attention..." "DUH DUDE"
You sir, are not a complete azzhole, but it's nice to see that with your fantastic people skills, you're working on it.
I guess I don't get it.
If Harley could easily slightly raise their redline (for, I presume, a slight increase in power) with no other bad effects than the switch, why didn't they build the bike that way in the first place with a switch which would handle the extra RPM? (Would think that somehow increasing the redline on any BMW would VOID the warrantee - and should.) The companies must know SOMETHING when they set redlines.
If BMW fuel strips STILL frequently fail (so this wasn't just a question of installing a bad batch that needed one-time replacement) how does providing a 12 year warrantee serve either the company or the customer? A repeated expense for the company (part and labor) and BOTH an expense (taking the bike to a dealership,) and a nuisance for the customer. How does this make sense?
My '92 K100RS has a "low fuel" light which gives me fair warning and ALSO a very accurate fuel gauge. I rather doubt either were "state of the art" even then. So am I just one of the lucky ones that didn't have either go wonky over the years, or was there another reason for switching to fuel strips? Maybe the old system couldn't give a digital read-out?
My newest car has all this new fuel stuff (average mpg since last fill-up, projected range until fill-up, etc. and I don't trust it. When I do the arithmetic, the mpg is always a bit worse than the computer indicates.) But the fuel gauge does seem to be very accurate. Maybe we are all the beta testers as the companies work out the bugs for a much better way of telling how much farther you can go on that tank of gas. For BMW owners with "the strip," I understand you are paying a pretty high price.
It must be that BMW now has what they judge to be a stock of non-defective fuel strips as replacements. After all, what's the point of doing a recall to replace defective parts with defective parts?
Also, let's tone down the language so this thread doesn't vanish. Explained differences of opinion are great - we all learn something. Short-hand profanity or veiled attacks on a person serve none of us.
Thank you.
I sincerely hope your are right. I've read posts of people having these fuel strips replaced multiple times, so they certainly didn't solve the problem after the first bad batch. Be interesting to hear if there are any failures on the most recent ones. Since I haven't seen any link to a "12 year warrantee" on the new fuel strips, could one of you provide that?
Also, let's tone down the language so this thread doesn't vanish. Explained differences of opinion are great - we all learn something. Short-hand profanity or veiled attacks on a person serve none of us.
Thank you.
"The motorcycle would stall while riding, increasing the risk of a crash," the agency (NHTSA) said.
Sounds like what could happen if you ran out of fuel due to an erroneous fuel level reading as a result of having a defective fuel strip.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/harley-recalls-bikes-ignition-switch-problem-24803206
(The qoute at the top is from today's Wall Street Journal)
Dude,
Do you have any line of reasoning that controverts mine? Surely not or you would have written it. But go ahead and "almost" call me a name. You need to be able to take what you dish. And this isn't MSNBC man. We are talking about motorcycle stuff here.
Wellston.
I see this Harley issue no different at all than a common issue some of us (including me) have experienced with sudden FPC failures on our BMWs. I was on an extremely busy expressway in the Left hand lane with no escape route travelling ~120Kph surrounded by cars and most importantly one very close behind me when mine failed. RTs slow down REAL FAST with no fuel and I can say I had a few seconds of great concern as I managed to squeeze left as far as possible against the median to avoid being hit from behind. There is no BMW recall for the replacement part even though I firmly believe this is an issue that compromises safety. They do have a different recall for the potential water ingress issue however that was not I experienced what my bike.
Therefore I do acknowledge Harley as recognizing a safety issue and at least responding to it. In BMWs cause it was not acknowledged or responded to.
"Most recent" models went back to floats...strips are history like their "power" brakes.
The first K bikes had fuel strips and BMW had to go to floats due to the strips being no good. Looks like that lesson was lost in the following years.
How would a defective fuel-level sensor cause you to run out of fuel?