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First clue - they are way too cheap online:
Not much of a problem in Illinois the dumb——- can ride without a helmet
We are the same in PA. Protecting the right to be stupid. Our most precious freedom.
Not the most precious- but an important one. Let's take it a step further and suppose someone in power decided that the risks inherent in motorcycling are too high, riding is stupid and two wheeled vehicles should be phased out and outlawed. Someone defending riding might get the comment "are you 'protecting the right to be stupid'"? No- I'd answer- I'm protecting the right to manage my own risk as I see fit. For me the risk/reward makes motorcycling a desirable pastime. By the way- I am ATGATT
Preserving the rights of people to make themselves and their families dependent on social services (SS disability and medicaid) by knowingly poor choices is something I'll always salute with a sigh.
I guess, we'll call it the "Reverse Enlightenment". Where any idea, not matter how bad, is worthy of a defense.
Real certified helmet vs. knockoff cheapo helmet should be the rider's choice.
As long as it is obvious that a helmet is a "faux helmet," a "beanie," a "cheater" helmet, I'm fine with that. The reason I posted the video is that when you look at a full-face helmet which looks for all the world an authentic Arai, but it splits like an egg in any kind of get-off, that's fraud and is a very serious violation of law and morals. Someone might buy one of these "Arai" helmets thinking it is the real thing when it most certainly is not.
And yeah, maybe half the helmets I see in action in New York are obviously fake due to the lack of any Styrofoam energy absorbing layer. I have no sympathy for those riders. We have the perfect excuse here to buck peer pressure and wear a real helmet since the law requires that.
Harry
NOW it gets interesting! Friedl's post above yours hints at some directions for "foolish decision rights", particularly his observation that: "I also strongly feel that if you personally make the choice to wear a non certified helmet and sustain some sort of head injury as a result of your choice, you should have absolutely NO expectation that I will pay your medical expenses for the results of your foolish choice either through increased insurance premiums to me or increased taxes or fees to the health care system. You made your choice. Live, or not, with your choice." My father, because he was a musician and worked late and drunk driving was more the rule than the exception, though a teetotaler, found himself in an "assigned risk" pool of insurance.
BTW a free universal health scheme would put the result of your (not you your, their your) poor decisions on MY shoulders. I'm not stridently proposing or eliminating anything- it IS complex. Arguably almost every tragedy is the result of a poor decision.
BTW shouldn't this be moved over to the "Politics of Motorcycling Forum"...which I voted against. HA
Anyway, I appreciate your measured response.
Rick Jagels
The link below provides an interesting analysis of helmet price versus safety factor.
https://blm.io/blog/motorcycle-helmet-safety-price/
There is a real problem with counterfeit helmets, but at the very first reply we turn it into bashing Harley Davidson riders and the people who are less than ATGATT.
You're the first one to use the words Harley Davidson.