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Riding the HP2 on the hard stuff

visian

look out!!!
Sunday was a dream day. "Sure" said Woolie, owner of BMW Motorcycles of Atlanta, "Sunday's good for me." More importantly, Bob's son Bobby Wooldridge, owner of the danged-near new (only ridden on Main St. during Biketoberfest) R1200GS HP2, said "yes, you can ride my bike up in the North Georgia mountains."

Now... am I dreaming, or what? This whole thing started with my idea to do a comparo between my 86 R80G/SPD+ and Bobby's '06 HP2. (of course my secret plan was to possibly ride a few miles on the HP2...)

We met for breakfast north of town. The two bikes looked really cool parked side-by-side... kinda like "bad-boy new bike meets the grizzled veteran..." with each scoping the other out.

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After some carb and cholesterol loading, Bobby backed his KTM 620 out of his pickup... no sense shredding the knobbies just getting to the trails. Suiting up, he took a novel approach to getting his BMW pants to fit over his Alpinestars.

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Don't you know that BMW pants only fit over BMW boots? Sheesh! Leatherman tool to the rescue. :p

Off we head from the Big Canoe area... back-roading it to the Nimblewill Church Road via GA53, 183, Bailey-Waters Road, County225... and then onto Nimblewill Gap Road (FS 28-2), where the road begins to get interesting.

I'm on the HP2, Woolie on my G/S (he plans to build one kinda like how I've done mine...) and Bobby on the Katoom. Let me tell you. I haven't done an inch of dirt yet and already have had a ton of fun. This motorcycle has serious, *serious* power even in stock trim and with a set of supermoto wheels on it, I would definitely lose my license. As it is, I judge it to be poor form to do wheelstands on my friend's brand new motorcycle.

Hitting the gravel, the road winds its way up hill. It's been a few years since I've ridden this road and the erosion has taken its toll. The south side of the hill is the easy side and yet the rocks and ledges are starting to get serious.

The HP2's suspension takes it in stride... the forks are impressive and the rear shock superb. The one challenge I am having is that the throttle is light-switch quick and one false turn will send me shooting off the side of a very steep hill. This makes me grip the right handle very tightly... and what's this... arm pump? Dang, what I wouldn't give for a friction screw right now.

Knowing that the rough part of the road is over the top of this hill, I press on with a fair amount of caution. I am bound and determined *not* to drop my buddie's brand new bike, especially since he hasn't even ridden it off-road yet. Did I mention how grateful I am for his generosity? And trust?

At the top, we take a short break.

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This parking spot is where the jeeps congregate... it looks easy but the trails heading off in all directions are every bit as rough as the passes in Colorado. Fun!

Heading down the north side of the hill, the hard part starts. 2-3 foot drop-offs, huge boulders masquerading as trail, eroded culverts with bike-swallowing holes. I pick my way down in 1st and 2nd gear... the higher gear helps with the light throttle. The bike is very standable... better than my G/S... the bars fall quickly to hand. I forgot to try the little flip-down rear brake thingy... but was able to apply the brakes with ease.

It occurs to me that the right way to ride down this is twice as fast... and just smack the crap out of the rocks instead of picking your way over them. (Just like they do in the Six-Day Trials). But my skills aren't that good, these rocks are B-I-G... and there is no way I am going to risk trashing the bike.

The brakes on this motorcycle are just plain excellent. No need for whizzy brakes... plenty of power, very easy to modulate. They make the careful ride over very rough stuff seem easy. I only had 2 or 3 "oh...sh**" moments on the way down because I had picked up too much speed. The combination of good brakes and my discipline to "look where you want to go" saved the day.

Down at the bottom, I just had to give Bobby a turn on his bike (mighty decent of me, no?). I hopped on the KTM, Woolie caught up with us on my G/S and off we headed down Old Bucktown and Tickanetly Church roads, Doublehead Gap road to FS42 and back into the hills.

I had forgotten how much I like a big-bore 4 stroke single... the KTM 620 is an excellent motorcycle. Compared to FS28-2, FS42 is a freeway, and Bobby and I rode much of it at 50mph. There was fresh gravel, very marble-y, and a few leaf-peepers to pass or dodge.

About halfway to TWO, we swapped back and the transition between the KTM and the HP2 was dramatic... like going from an old pickup truck to a Cadillac Escalade. The HP2 is an impressively refined motorcycle... very smooth (although vibes crept in noticeably at higher revs) and very easy to control at speed. Power slides at will, warp-factor 9 at the twist of the wrist... danged near a point and shoot bike for the dirt.

The weight is there, though... quite noticeable when transitioning off the KTM, but also quite manageable. I must say that those pics of Jimmy Lewis et al pretty much sum up the skill level required to ride this bike *really* fast off-road. Top-drawer credentials required.

We smoked cigars at TWO while many in the crowd ogled the HP2.

My G/S was parked alongside, stealing nary a glance. :(

The HP2 did need gas... that small tank is a bummer to me... and we headed east up 180. We got a clear shot all the way over Wolf Pen Gap, Bobby and I were smoking the turns... it never ceases to amaze me how well the Metz tires work on pavement. There is a little sticker on the handlebar that says "100kph max" because BMW thinks that's the fastest you should go on these tires. Yeah... right. Maybe they meant in the turns?

Catching up to a car train we patiently awaited our turn off about a mile past the top of Wolf Pen... onto Wolf Creek Road.

It was getting late in the day, and Daylight Savings Time was over. Dang it... I had taken hardly *any* pictures! I made Woolie stop (he didn't want to) and pose:

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Oh man, what a beautiful bike. :german

At the bottom, I resisted the temptation to ford Wolf Creek... knowing that Bob and Bobby might not know the crossing and take the "deep" side by mistake. More than a few friends of mine have made this mistake. :evil

At the Choestoe Store, we headed south on US129, up to near the top of Blood Mountain, and took a left on Helton Creek Road.

Woolie did the honors for the creek crossing shot:

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... and then took a pic of me doing the crossing on my G/S.

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Back on the HP2 again (Bob seriously liked my G/S) we headed south on the Richard B. Russell Scenic Raceway... blowing past more than a few cruisers (politely, mind you...). Again, BMW should offer the option of supermoto wheels and tires on the HP2, this motorcycle shreds some serious butt in the twisties. Serious. I mean, we're talking wheelstands under power out of the tight corners (sorry Bobby...)

Down at the bottom of the hill, time for a pose in front of the Smithgall Woods Preserve....

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What a day. What a ride. What a bike!!! :clap

Thank you so much, Bob and especially Bobby for letting me ride your bike and do this comparo.

Oh, speaking of which... getting back on the G/SPD+ wasn't as big of a letdown as I had imagined. Yes, down about 30 horsepower and far less sophisticated suspension. But I still love my little bike. It's lower (the HP2 is **tall**) and clearly less refined, but the most exciting thing I learned today is that, with the HP2, BMW has briliantly re-captured the concept they created 25 years ago with the G/S.

I may just have to find the money for an HP2.... *please* don't tell my wife. :D

Ian
 
Thanks for sharing an excellent weekend with us.

I won't say a thing to your wife!
 
sfarson said:
Excellent report, and comparison. Much appreciated.

There's more to the comparo that I'm gonna write up later.

You know, about 15 gajillion times I wish I had you along on the ride... with your helmet cam. I shot a small amount of video on this ride, but none while on the ride. I only have a handheld DV cam. It would have been cool to show you all the trails we were on... the fall colors were nice. (oh... did I say *fall*... nevermind!)

Ian
 
Very cool.

I agree they were autumn colors. Also you can stay or sleep at my place but not that other word....
 
"Disco shoes from the 70s. That danged HP2 is **tall** !!!


HA!
I'm not familiar with all the models...is yours a police model? I saw a new one at a local shop & liked the seat height on it. Yeah, that HP2 looks pretty darn tall...you didnt seem to have any problem with the differences in heights & going back & forth on them?
 
mcclimans84rt said:
I'm not familiar with all the models...is yours a police model? I saw a new one at a local shop & liked the seat height on it. Yeah, that HP2 looks pretty darn tall...you didnt seem to have any problem with the differences in heights & going back & forth on them?

Mine is the first G/S... first brought to market in 1981... and it defined a new category of riding called dual-sport. The "G" stands for Gelande (land) and "S" for Strasse (street). And for those who know... the "slash" is very important. :) After 1986, the model designation dropped the slash and added weight, displacement and complexity.

My particular bike has the PD (Paris-Dakar) kit... which was first made available as an option in 1984, after BMWs started dominating the endurance race (aka rally-raid) of the same name. The kit consisted of a 9.5 gallon tank, a special short seat with rack, special rear fender and body panels. My tank has the signature of Gaston Rahier on top... multi-time winner of the Paris-Dakar for BMW.

Several people have put together a web site on the G/S and GS models that provides excellent reference. Several years ago I removed the Paris Dakar stickers from my tank because I wanted an all white bike. Interestingly, people used to ask me if it was a police model all the time when it had those stickers on it.

Personally, I don't have much difficulty riding tall bikes... I grew up racing motocross and riding enduro bikes, which started out tall and only got taller as suspension technology progressed. The seat on the HP-2 is ~3" taller than my G/S... and it provides significantly better suspension and ground clearance. A lot more ground clearance.

Funny sidestory: Gaston Rahier was only 5'4" tall and had to mount his PD racer with a small step ladder. Once perched atop, he'd do *anything* not to fall because it was so danged hard to get back on again!

I sure hope that BMW continues to refine the HP-2 model in the way they did the original G/S. HPN Motorradtechnik (noted German performance tuner that was deeply involved in the development of the HP-2) is said to be coming out with a 7 gallon fuel tank early next year. I'd like to see a bolt-on seat/rack/bags combo similar to what was made for the PD kit on the G/S.

If they do, one of these bikes is in my future.

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This bike is what HPN is doing with older G/S models these days... and the G/S is still sold in some markets today, called the "Basic." (it does have a paralever drive shaft, though).


Ian
 
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Nice! They did tell me it came in RED. And I can touch both toes down ; )

A woman can dream, can't she?

Thanks for sharing, Ian.

Voni
sMiling
 
That's a super report and even greater sharing a ride on the HP2 with a strong skill level to enjoy what it has to offer.

I was told BMW only made a limited amount of these because they needed to produce just enough to qualify it as a "production bike". In order to compete in this years Paris Dakar with the HP2, it first has to qualify as a production bike.

I haven't followed this closely, so correct me if I'm wrong here, but KTM has dominated over BMW for this event and BMW plans to take no prisoners with their HP2 production bike.

It's the first bike I'm aware of that uses an air bag in place of a conventional rear shock and has that "level window" on the side to adjust it to the rider. There's just tons of innovation on this bike.

I'm also told that BMW plans to have other models in the future with the HP
(High Performance) designation.

This will be similar to their "M" designation or the Mercedes "AMG" on their cars.

I'd love to have a R1200RT HP :thumb
 
RTRandy said:
I was told BMW only made a limited amount of these because they needed to produce just enough to qualify it as a "production bike". In order to compete in this years Paris Dakar with the HP2, it first has to qualify as a production bike.

I haven't followed this closely, so correct me if I'm wrong here, but KTM has dominated over BMW for this event and BMW plans to take no prisoners with their HP2 production bike.

This is probably not true because the HP2 has too much displacement for the new rules in the P-D. They changed the rules a way back so that no bike with more than one cylinder could displace more than 450cc. Safety was the purported reason...

BMW is doing something interesting this year vis-a-vis this race. The Race to Dakar features Charley Boorman (of The Long Way Round fame) and two other guys that are going to be racing an F650 in this year's P-D. Check out the site, and follow the race. BMW AG is sponsoring, and this is going to be one heckuva story.

The official Paris to Dakar site has a lot of details and is *the* place to follow the race.

After dominating in the 80s, BMW backed away from this event, probably because it wasn't as brand-aligned as the investment warranted. Later, the company decided Adventure Touring was cool and re-engaged. They ran both F650s and a very cool HPN-prepped twin. And they won.

But KTM started pouring tons of support into the event and eventually started winning, both because their bikes are very good, much lighter and nimbler (than the BMW twins, at least) and because, well... sheer numbers.

It's the first bike I'm aware of that uses an air bag in place of a conventional rear shock and has that "level window" on the side to adjust it to the rider. There's just tons of innovation on this bike.

From another angle, I like what's *not* there. Less weight, for one. No whizzy brakes for another. No place for a passenger. More of a purist motorcycle focused on performance. Take no prisoners power.

I'd love to have a R1200RT HP :thumb

:nod

Ian
 
Voni said:
Nice! They did tell me it came in RED. And I can touch both toes down ; )

Red would look great on this motorcycle. The one thing I kinda don't like about it is the color. It's nice, but I like silver or white.... the official :german racing colors.

Regarding toes, if I really stretch, i can *just barely* get a tip-toe down on both sides. If I want to be sure, it's the old "scootch your butt over" strategy...

There is a low seat, but that would be thinner than the already thin unit that comes stock.

Plus, you're supposed to stand, anyway. :p

Ian
 
Visian said:
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From a new race series being sponsored by BMW and KTM...

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This is wicked. :evil

Ian

I rode an R12GS that had been outfitted with 17" radials off of an R12ST.

Unbelievable. This bike had Metzeler M1 Sportecs on it and it flicked from one side to the other like it weighed a hundred pounds less than it really did.

I can only imagine an HP2 with that kind of setup. :jawdrop
 
KBasa said:
I rode an R12GS that had been outfitted with 17" radials off of an R12ST.

Unbelievable. This bike had Metzeler M1 Sportecs on it and it flicked from one side to the other like it weighed a hundred pounds less than it really did.

I can only imagine an HP2 with that kind of setup. :jawdrop

:brow Only a very evil man would post this after I had expunged the HP2 from my daydreams!
:burnout
 
HP2 Road Wheels Kit....

Looks like BMW have copied the idea.......

From BMW Press Club:Monday 6th March 2006

The HP2 Enduro is without question the most extreme BMW off-road bike ever made and is the first in a new 'high performance' range of motorcycles from BMW Motorrad. Putting a tuned 105 hp Boxer engine in a stripped-down, purpose-built chassis has brought big-bore thrills to many dirt bike riders. However, the big advantage that the HP2 enjoys over its competitors is that it is 100 per cent road legal.

As such - and in response to customer demand - a 17-inch set of street wheels is now available for the HP2, giving owners maximum riding pleasure on tarmac, with the added bonus of being able to quickly and easily change the bike back to enduro specification for off-road riding.

Since its launch in September 2005 the world's most powerful production enduro bike has caught the imagination of off-road fans all over the globe. It has already seen action in legendary international races such as the Baja 1000 and Erzberg Rodeo, and even competed in the famous Hafren Rally closer to home. It also proved its long-distance capabilities and durability when Dakar rally veteran PG Lundmark rode one from the Nordkap in Norway all the way to the tip of South Africa earlier this year.

But it's the short journeys where the new HP2 with street wheels will excel on tarmac. With sticky road rubber and more than 100 horsepower available, this high-performance BMW will be great fun to ride on the kind of twisty, bumpy, undulating surfaces that tie sports bikes up in knots. In town, its long-travel suspension and 920mm seat height will provide excellent visibility in traffic, while the massive amount of torque generated by the tuned 1,170cc Boxer engine (115 Nm at just 5,500 rpm) will undoubtedly make the journey to and from work the best part of the day.

Available after BMW's New Season Launch weekend celebrations on 25-26 March, customers who purchase an HP2 Enduro can choose to have a set of street wheels included for an all-inclusive price of ?ú12,595 on the road. The good news for existing HP2 owners is that they will be able to purchase a set of street wheels for a special price until the end of December 2006 - on submission of the appropriate vehicle documentation to their dealer. And for true off-road aficionados (who have no intention of riding their HP2 Enduro on tarmac) it is still possible to buy the HP2 Enduro without the street wheels option at ?ú11,955.

The set of street wheels come as standard with tubeless Continental Road Attack tyres (120/70 and 150/70) although other tyres authorised for use include the Bridgestone BT 020, Metzeler Roadtrac Z6, Pirelli Diabolo Strada and Pirelli Scorpion Sync. The spoked wheels (3.5 x 17 front and 4.0 x 17 rear) have anodised black rims and mounted brake discs. Adapted fork protectors and assembly instructions are also included.

Changing from off-road to street wheels is very simple - and much like a standard wheel change - since the axle mounts are identical to those of the enduro wheels. Only the fork protectors have to be exchanged and the front brake calliper has to be bolted into the new assembly position in line with the larger brake disc diameter (320 mm).

Customers can call BMW's information line: 0800 777 155 or visit www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk for more information.

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Cheers

Dutch
 
Dutchman said:
From BMW Press Club:Monday 6th March 2006

... As such - and in response to customer demand - a 17-inch set of street wheels is now available for the HP2, giving owners maximum riding pleasure on tarmac, with the added bonus of being able to quickly and easily change the bike back to enduro specification for off-road riding.

Interestingly, this is how the R80ST came into being.

When the G/S first came out in 1981, it was so far out of the box that many US dealers replaced the 21" front wheel with a 19" and mounted street tires.

The result is one of the best handling BMWs ever made.

As I've heard it told, the factory saw what the US dealers were doing and decided to make the R80ST.

Ian
 
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