That "25,000" member reference has been there for a number of years, and I wouldn't take that as a current count.
They are when that year results in a deficit are they not? Again, someone mentioned not all venues break even, the deficit isn't absorbed by member dues? Designed to be and reality don't always meet according to others here who seem to be more in than know about that many others.
That's too bad one can't rely on the org to keep current numbers isn't it? I have no doubt you're probably correct, but that just brings to light another small issue
I'm not seeing the point of your posts, other than to argue for arguments sake. The Board, the Executive Director, and the Rally Chair(s) do all in their power to make sure that each rally is in the black. What has been said is that there can be unforeseen and uncontrollable circumstances which could cause a rally to lose money. Obviously, if that happens then that loss comes out if the net financial results for the club for that year, just as any rally profits adds to our bottom line. The model we have works very, very well, it's just that you appear to be convinced that the members are being cheated out of some "better" rally venues because some sites cost more than our rally attendance can a afford. Well, that's nothing new. Its always been the case - even when we had rallies pushing 10,000 attendees, that some places were too expensive. Other than explanations like this, I can't prove it to you. However, I've seen dozens of rally budgets - and the actual results - and run three rallies (two MOA and one RA) and I can only tell you that this is how the process works, and that it's not broken.
Maybe in the next ON issue they'll address it. I would think at least one member of the board has seen this contentious discussion.
I hope so.
As a long timer here and with the org, why do you suppose there seems to be no suitable places in the 15 central states?
Read his reply slowly again. I don't think he said that.
I did, and here's what he said in quotes "I was not happy that there seems to be no suitable place found in the 16 central states"
I suspect, with no direct knowledge, that for some reason Lebanon, TN provided a deal too good to pass up. At least that is my hope. I haven't tried to do the math regarding regions, and the change from 4 regions to three regions, and the years between 2019 and 2025 but do wonder if it was planned in 2019 to return in 2025, at least in the site's figuring.
Thank you
However it came to be, I plan on attending. I really enjoyed the first Lebanon rally and expect I will enjoy this one again.
When I left the BMW MOA Presidency at the turn of the last century we had just gone over 40,000 members. With the great recession of 2008, and the transformation of 401(K) accounts into 101 or 201 (K) accounts, discretionary recreational spending took a dive into the dumpster for many folks. Motorcycling in general took a big hit. And so did the BMW MOA. Those among us who are "geezers" are slowing down, and motorcycling has not been as big a hit with youngsters as it once was. So what was once (briefly) a 40K member organization is now not what it once was membership wise.
Great post.
Like this, Paul?
It's always been a problem for as long as I was on the Board.
Organizations of many stripes have churn. Of every group of new members, some will stay and some will leave. Folks "try-on" membership and decide if the organization is for them. Some decide it isn't. Some just aren't joiners. Some have no interest in rallies. Some like the Owners News but with the internet it is a less needed source of information. Sometimes opinionated members drive new folks away. "What- you are not ATTGAT!!!!". Or "You chopped up that /5, how dare you", or other critical comments. So yes, members will come and members will go. Our hope is that enough stay to keep the organization viable.
