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Noisy motorcycles - revisited and continued

TheSlashFiveTourer

Original 1973 LWB R75/5
News Item:- Vancouver Sun (4 August 2006)

NOISY BIKERS FACE STIFF FINES

Police officers, some armed with decibel readers, are set to crack down on heavy metal thunder from the illegally reverberant pipes of tricked-out motorcycles.

The Vancouver police department plans to attack acoustic assault over the next five days by issuing $109 tickets to motorcyclists with bikes making noise well over the average range of 93 decibels.

The cityÔÇÖs limit on noise at construction sites is 85 decibels.

ÔÇ£We get hundreds of complaints every summer from people in the West End about noisy motorcycles,ÔÇØ said a police spokesman.

Fines for noisy motorcycles arenÔÇÖt new but the level of enforcement will be said the spokesman. Some officers will have decibel readers while others will simply target bikes making a flagrantly harsh clamour.

The target area of the police campaign is the echo canyon of the downtown peninsula where the roaring vibrato of a motorcycle can crank out quite the cacophony.

At the corner of Thurlow and Robson, bikers park at one of the two Starbucks and take in some sun and high-octane coffee before revving up their engines and heading off. The racket is familiar to a sales associate at Banana Republic across from one of the Starbucks. ÔÇ£It usually happens in the evening. The corner seems to be a place where people with really loud bikes like to congregate. It gets pretty loud. ThatÔÇÖs how they show off, I guess. ItÔÇÖs a way of drawing attention to themselves. It can be pretty bad. Especially if the bikers let it rip as they drive out.ÔÇØ

The problem is that many bikers remove or modify the muffler tailpipe to make them louder.

A local specialist in soundscape awareness from Simon Fraser University in Vancouver states there has always been a connection between noise and the biker culture. ÔÇ£There is a general ethos that noise is power. That the louder the roar of the beast, the more powerful it is and the more wary you should be of it.ÔÇØ The specialist said the traditional roar of a Harley-Davidson is almost part of its brand. He went on to declare that the issue of noisy motorcycles is a tricky one, where the balance needs to be reached between the bikersÔÇÖ right to indulge in their hobby and the noise-sensitive publicÔÇÖs right not to be offended.

The specialist concluded that city garbage trucks in the West End of the city probably make more noise than motorcycles.


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TodayÔÇÖs Readers Digest words of choice in this article are:

1. "illegally reverberant"
2. "vibrato"
3. "cacophony"
4. "ethos"
5. "soundscape awareness"

So there. ` ` `:lurk
 
We do not use that type of language in any of the newspapers around here, that is for dang sure!
 
Nothing like a precedent. Coming to a community near you!

As a BMW Rider I can't help but to chukle.

H-D saw this coming by removing it Screaming Eagle pipes from the market.
 
Apparently, many motorcyclists have not realized that it's never in the best interests of a minority to piss off the majority.

Noise is one of the big issues. Trucks make noise, but they are doing something useful--hauling Chinese goods to Wal Mart, groceries to Safeway, etc. Normal citizens are slowly coming to realize that motorcycles don't come noisy--but are made noisy by self-centered scofflaw bikers.

As more and more communities discover that there is money to be made by enforcing the equipment laws, there will be a crackdown on motorcycles that will affect us all.

Noise annoys. Got lout pipes? What part of "illegal" don't you understand?
But, aren't we all in this together? Aren't we all bikers? Aren't we going to stick together and fight big bro?

Uhhh, no.

pmdave
 
It's time to add "Loud Shirts Save Lives" decals to our bikes! I have one on my airhead, along with a "Chrome Won't Get You Home" decal, a real conversation starter at some coffee stops.

Or perhaps we could counter attack by riding to places the loud bikes congregate and drown them out with airhead valve clatter, K bike engine whine, or turn up the volume on the talking GPS receivers! That'll teach them.

Of course if we all turn up in bright coloured Aerostitch suits, wearing reflective vests and full face helmets, that should drive the scofflaws away, and if that doesn't work, we could hand out brochures on ERC courses. We would soon have them running for the hills.

P.S. Don't forget to bring your earplugs, in case we do actually drive them away, don't want any hearing impaired beemer riders.

Regards, Rod.
 
i'm a super hypocrite,

loud as hell harley or chopper thing - BOOO

loud as hell duc, triumph, airhead, etc - AWSOME

i rode with a guy yesterday that had a pretty loud R11S, i liked it A LOT.
 
RODSHERIDAN said:
It's time to add "Loud Shirts Save Lives" decals to our bikes! I have one on my airhead, along with a "Chrome Won't Get You Home" decal, a real conversation starter at some coffee stops.

.

I love wearing my Royal Enfield shirt that proudly says "Loud Valves Save Lives" on the back, especially when I venture into a H-D shop! Yes, I occasionally take a walk on the wild side! ;)
Chris
 
threeflys said:
I love wearing my Royal Enfield shirt that proudly says "Loud Valves Save Lives" on the back, especially when I venture into a H-D shop! Yes, I occasionally take a walk on the wild side! ;)
Chris


My favorite picture is the one of my RT in front of Sturgis Harley Davidson. I got in and out of the parking lot before they knew I was there, because the RT was so quiet!!
 
The other day we were picking up the car at the repair shop before a trip to Seattle (had to pick up my parents at the airport and so couldn't ride), and got to talking with the mechanic. He rides a Ninja with loud aftermarket pipes, and said he really likes knowing that people can hear him coming.

Half an hour later, we drove past him on our way out of town. I had the window open and the radio was turned off and I was looking right at him, and I didn't hear a thing until he was past me.

I've heard that loud brakes save lives too. Squeeee!
 
SlashFiveTourer said:

At the corner of Thurlow and Robson, bikers park at one of the two Starbucks and take in some sun and high-octane coffee before revving up their engines and heading off. The racket is familiar to a sales associate at Banana Republic across from one of the Starbucks.

i love the dichotomy at work here: yuppies and boomers drinking starbucks and riding loud, badass motorcycles outside the banana republic store.

effete meets F-you.

biker #1: [VROOOOOOOOOOOOOM VROOOOOOM!]

biker #2: [screaming] you wanna get a latte?!!

biker #1: WHAT?!

biker #2: let's get a coffee!!!

biker #1: I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I'M REVVING MY ENGINE BEFORE I [VROOOM!] PUT IT INTO FIRST GEAR! IT'S COOL! HEY, I WANT A HALF-CAF-NONFAT-CARAMEL-SOY-FRAPPUCINO-WITH-WHIP!

biker #2: WHAT?!

biker #1: this is AWESOME! [VROOOM VROOOM]

biker #2: hey i need to [VROOM!] go to banana republic!! they have the new wool blend micro-pinstripe trousers out now! [VROOOM!]

biker #1: WHAT? A SCHNAUZER?

biker #2: [VROOOM!] no, TROUSERS!

biker #1: no, i think they only have coffee and pastries. [VROOOM!] man, i could also go for a low fat lemon [VROOM!] poppyseed muffin, but i really need to increase [VROOM!] my fiber intake. have you seen the polished pique premium french cuff shirts at banana republic?

biker #2: WHAT?!!

biker #1: hey look at those dorks on the BMW bikes. what is that guy wearing, a freakin flourescent jumpsuit?! [VROOOM!] is he going skydiving or riding?!

biker #2: [VROOM!! VROOM!]

biker #1: think we should put our [VROOOM!] bikes in gear and ride?

biker #2: [VROOOM!] nah, mine has to warm up some more.

biker #1: [VROOO-cough-sputter-clatter-CLANK] i think i just ran out of gas!

biker #2: [shuts off bike.] [shouts:] that's pretty badass to ride till the tank is dry! yeah! i hear this town has a yankee candle outlet, let's head over there and see if they have the new fall scents.

biker #1: why are we still yelling?

[curtain]

:D
 
username said:
i love the dichotomy at work here: yuppies and boomers drinking starbucks and riding loud, badass motorcycles outside the banana republic store.

effete meets F-you.

Its realy funny that at times I feel like the only one in world who gets irritated by the loud pipes. I had a thread started about the F-you HD yuppies that seem to be growing on trees. :sick But most folks run for the PC response that they have met all these great HD riders. :nono Yes they are around. There are those who's pipes are not window breakers and they do not always look pissed off while riding. Only I am seeing less and less of happy santa type HD guys .

I hope the cities and townships get crazy on noise and other equipment (the HD fashion statement of removing the turn signles) violations. :rocker But I have not always been as nice to others as I should. :doh
 
Crow18 said:
The other day we were picking up the car at the repair shop before a trip to Seattle (had to pick up my parents at the airport and so couldn't ride), and got to talking with the mechanic. He rides a Ninja with loud aftermarket pipes, and said he really likes knowing that people can hear him coming.Half an hour later, we drove past him on our way out of town. I had the window open and the radio was turned off and I was looking right at him, and I didn't hear a thing until he was past me.

I've heard that loud brakes save lives too. Squeeee!

That is one of the biggest fallacies of loud pipes. In fact you don't hear them that much sooner when they are behind you, it is after they pass that you hear them. The sound is directed behind the rider by the shape and direction the pipe is pointed, i.e. behind the rider not toward the front. So there is really NO safety issue gained by them. When I did an article for the local motorcycle rag I write for about the Madness Behind the Myth, (that loud pipes saves lives) I spent a lot of time taking note of just when I heard a bike as it approached me from the rear. No matter how loud it was, it was not till it was next to or in front of me that I could really hear it better than a quieter machine. Try it yourself and you'll see, a loud machine behind you just is not that much, if any, more noticeable than a quiet one.

RM
 
rocketman said:
That is one of the biggest fallacies of loud pipes. In fact you don't hear them that much sooner when they are behind you, it is after they pass that you hear them. The sound is directed behind the rider by the shape and direction the pipe is pointed, i.e. behind the rider not toward the front. So there is really NO safety issue gained by them. When I did an article for the local motorcycle rag I write for about the Madness Behind the Myth, (that loud pipes saves lives) I spent a lot of time taking note of just when I heard a bike as it approached me from the rear. No matter how loud it was, it was not till it was next to or in front of me that I could really hear it better than a quieter machine. Try it yourself and you'll see, a loud machine behind you just is not that much, if any, more noticeable than a quiet one.

RM

rocketman, i disagree - the pipes ALWAYS warn me of the presence of harley riders. i'll be out tooling along, and i'll hear them rumbling somewhere... soon enough, there they are RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, and then i pass them and and am rewarded with silence.

heck, those loud pipes are more effective than a tail light!

;)

:D

i love to rag on harley people, but they have so many bikes sold, that they are bound to have lots of people acting like dopes on them. when i'm out riding around, i always see lots of harleys with riders on them, loaded with gear, taking fun trips. theyre good fun, and always great to meet on gas stops etc and chat with. but the DBs that just buy them to go around town or into starbucks, and make noise, well, i wouldn't miss them much at all.
 
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