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I’m rather disappointed, perhaps dismayed with Boeing.

omega man

omega man

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Boeing hasn’t been doing well lately. It used to be, IMO, one of the Pride of America 🇺🇸 companies.
Trouble with the 737 MAX. That “door falling off mid-flight deal. And now- NASA has announced that the Starliner will returned “unmanned” in 2025. The mission was supposed to be-
“About eight days-

When the first test flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft with crew on board launched back in June, officials said their trip to the station and back would last about eight days. But some thrusters on Starliner inexplicably conked out as it approached the station, plus mission managers detected some helium leaks.“


I really don’t like to see one of the big American 🇺🇸 companies go :fart

I think I have heard this story before-


OM
 
When Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglas the quality inspired engineers were pushed aside and the cost inspired accountants took over management. And you can now observe the magnificent results of those decisions. Boeing will survive but some stockholders will take a hit. I hope the lessons learned will become a featured case study in every engineering school and business school in this country, right along with the case study of Eddie Lambert, the vulture capitalist that sold off Craftsman, sold off Kenmore, and bought out leases and sold off the real estate as he systematically dismantled Sears, stuffing money in his pockets every step of the way!
 
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Tonight’s the night. 😱


I’m willing to bet that everyone at Boeing have everything crossed. :eek

At the Space Station…….


:hungover

OM
 
61996 said:
D.E.I.

Joe
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Nope. C.E.O. as outlined in post# 2. Or like the Roger Smith era at GM, when an MBA was everything and a PE not so much. Boeing was in trouble long before the DEI uproar started.
I do hope they get the craft back in one piece, so the engineers can gather some useful failure analysis data.

Best,
DeVern
 
My wife retired from Boeing after 42yr. The past 20yr, she was in IT services and before that, was in drafting/design services. The stories she told me would make for a Block Buster Movie!
 
Bearing in mind that I retired near the end of 2009, I've had two co-workers and one neighbor who worked for Boing, at 3 different locations... They all said it wasn't a great place to work, just a job...
 
My father worked in south east Kansas as a farm hand in the late 40’s. He got a job at Boeing in the early 50’s, working on the assembly line. This was in Wichita, Kansas. Boeing needed skilled labor, but Wichita was not a hot bed of skilled machinists and tool and die makers at that time. Boeing had their own onsite classes to teach those skills.
 
My father had almost a six grade education. He did know very basic math. My mother had a little more education, to gather they locked down on more advanced math, algebra and trigonometry. He passed and moved up to the machine shop working with machinist and tool and die makers. He excelled at it. At that time Boeing had the most advanced equipment available for this type of manufacturing,
 
My father took 2nd jobs at local machine shops around Wichita and Derby. He learned the old school technics of metal working. He excelled at this type of machining. Boeing was a union shop and my father was active in this environment. I remember going out out with him to see the union employees walk the picket lines. I didn’t understand all of the particulars of this activity as I was so young.
 
I’m guessing at this time the smaller family owned machine shops/tool&d were shut down do to no work at Boeing. When not walking the picket line he got part time work at local places in the area not related to Boeing.
 
barryg said:
My father took 2nd jobs at local machine shops around Wichita and Derby. He learned the old school technics of metal working. He excelled at this type of machining. Boeing was a union shop and my father was active in this environment. I remember going out out with him to see the union employees walk the picket lines. I didn’t understand all of the particulars of this activity as I was so young.
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One job was working at a local school as a janitor/maintenance, another was working at local car lot. One night at home; I heard a loud sound outside; I peered outside and it was my Dad on a motorcycle. It was a Harley or an Indian. Mom wouldn’t let us go out and see it up close. Aw, sucks.
 
Dad was tired of the strikes; we moved to Arkansas, and lived in the sticks out on the country. Dad worked in local shops, he tired of that then back to Derby/Wichita and back to Boeing. More strikes. Dad quickly tired of that. Planed on going back to Arkansas. Moving again. My poor Mom. At least we moved at the end of the school session. I remember being in Swaney Elementary School in a hallway looking up at a spread out version of the Kansas flag with the Sunflower picture. Now it was back to the sticks and hills of Arkansas. It was the end of my era in Kansas and Boeing.
 
This corporate ideal is happening NOT just at Boeing/MD, it's happening in a lot of public traded companies, cut as many corners as possible even if you're breaking laws. All in the name of satisfying the shareholders.
 
Not just Boeing, nor aviation…….marketing and bean counters have always been engineering’s biggest enemies……😔
 
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