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2013 R1200RT Undershooting Idle RPM at throttle close

hammbone

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Situation:

2013 R1200RT camhead: Engine rpm’s dip too low below idle rpm upon throttle close. Happens both when just blipping the throttle while the bike is stopped in neutral and when slowing to a stop and pulling in the clutch. Engine speed was dipping to ~600rpm, then recovering to a normal idle speed of ~1,100rpm. Upon an ECM reset they’re now only dipping to ~800rpm, but still not “normal”.



Background:

A few weeks ago, while attempting to pass a slow car, when I cracked open the throttle, my RH throttle body cam broke OFF the throttle shaft (it took me a while to figure out what was going on - I checked many things before discovering the actual problem and documented it all, but did not include all of those details here as they seem irrelevant).

  • Upon a GS-911 scan, NO faults were detected.
  • I replaced the battery (needed one anyway and part of the many things I checked in troubleshooting).
  • I checked the TPS sensor. Seems to be fine at WOT and closed values AND it sweeps smoothly when checked with an analog gauge.
  • I replaced both throttle cams with ATC brand CNC aluminum throttle cams.
  • I cleaned the throttle bodies upon re-assembly.
  • *(The RH throttle body did fall off the bench while working. (Yikes). I inspected it and didn’t notice any dents, dings, or cracks. The idle actuator was still in place when this happened, and it seemed to still work upon re-assembling the throttle body on the bike.)
  • Upon re-assembly, I left the throttle blade screws loose while actuating the throttle shaft open/closed to make sure the blade would fully close, and the throttle stop would rest against the factory-set throttle-stop screw. I did NOT touch factory set throttle-stop screw.
  • Installed NEW fuel injector o-rings with a light application silicon as a lube.
  • I performed the idle actuation recalibration with the GS-911.
  • I performed the synchronization process. I only adjusted the RH cable adjustment nut at the throttle body in order to get the vacuum reading the same at the specified 1,400-1,800rpm. Both throttle bodies were readying dead-on at idle AND at ~1,600rpm.
  • I adjusted the main throttle cable at the twist-grip to the specified 2-3mm slack.
  • I attempted to also adjust the lower cable (cruise control), but not sure how this is supposed to be done exact. Cruise seems to work fine and shuts off when I roll the twist-grip forward.
  • The “situation” (see above) happened with a dip to ~600rpm and sometimes would stall the engine. Engine would stop stalling once up to operating temp, but dip was still present.
  • I re-set the ECM by disconnecting the battery for 30min and reconnecting. Dip still present but only drops to ~800rpm now. Still not “normal”.


Assessment:

  • Not sure I can assess much further.
  • One thing worth adding – Upon “spirited” power downshifting, I do notice more burble (light popping), which is indicative of a lean condition.
  • Other than the undershooting rpm condition, the bike seems to run better than before the incident.


Recommendation:

  • This where I could use further insight and guidance.
  • *I will add: I have only put 14 miles on the bike since I did the ECM reset. Will it re-learn fuel mapping and self-correct over time?

THANK YOU in advance for your help!
 
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Update 11/7/24:
I rote my RT to work yesterday. When I left, it was pretty cool (mid 40's) and the undershooting RPM thing caused a struggle until the bike warmed up as it would kill the bike when cold. When I got home I kept thinking about it. I wondered if perhaps I over tightened the lower throttle cable (for cruise control). I went to the garage and added slack to it. BOOM! That seemed to fix it.

I rode into work this morning (or attempted to). The bike started fine, although there was a red exclamation point on the instrument display for a second, then it went away. I started on my journey. It was 36°F and very foggy. About 3-4 miles from home, I'm cruising at 55mph on a two-lane highway in farm country, the rpms start falling. I added throttle, nothing happened. The rpm's kept falling. The bike completely died and I couldn't get it to restart. Related to my other issues? IDK? Seems fuel related. Fuel pump was replaced in spring 2021 by dealer. Is it the fuel pump controller? IDK? I'm going to see what the GS911 tells me tonight.

Overall, this is very frustrating and I'm starting to lose my passion for BMW.
 
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I have diagnosed both of my problems, and the bike is running great now. Let's chalk all of this up to a humbling learning experience!

1) The undershooting RPM upon throttle closed → I had the lower throttle cable for the cruise control adjusted a little too tight.
2) Suddenly dying while riding down the highway → well, even though my gauge said FULL, it was indeed empty! Kind of embarrassing and humbling, but the gauge DID READ FULL.
*I did siphon all the gas out at one point and added new from a different station. I thought I filled it, but obviously didn't. I also wonder if I poked something when sticking my tube in there to siphon? Or, when I unplugged the fuel pump harness when I also disconnected the fpc, did that mess with the calibration? IDK. That's my next problem to fix - the fuel gauge.​
 
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