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You're welcome Roger like one of the articles says and I tend to agree, there isn't a huge difference between the top tires in performance when the pressures and other conditions are all controlled properly. We must remember though that these tests are short-term controlled tests that identify how the tires work/react/wear under those conditions but they provide great info on what the tires will actually do.
Like others, after putting 5k-10k on any given set of tires there will have been times when the air pressure wasn't spot on for the load, etc. My real-world experience has been that the original Z8 wore quicker than my 01 which seems to be lasting better than any previous tire I've run on the RT. I too, had more noticable scalloping on the PR3, PR4 and and Z8 with very little on the 01.
and still have the stock Michelin tires the bike came with...No complaints except maybe that the bike seems twitchy to me
If you are experiencing twitchy on the Michelins the Pirelli Angel GT takes twitchy to a whole new level! I had 22K miles on the bike before installing Angel GT and geez it was a good 500miles before I acclimated to those tires, coming from PR4GT. That twitchiness translated to poor ability to hold lines in curves compared to the PR4GT which was decent in those terms. The Angle GT also wore in 4 discrete planes of wear I I think if anything holding lines got worse as the tire wore. Turn-in was too easy as it were. Here are the Angel GT w/ about 6500m on them:
Here are the Conti RA3's after about 5K miles which show a more uniform curvature--can't seem to rotate the photo:
Good to know. That's a pretty steep profile, to me. I'm leaning hard toward the Metzler's or the Continentals. I won't be horribly disappointed if I end up with the Michelins again for some reason, I just like to try what's out there.
But my hands-down favorite is the Continental Road Attack 3. It is very responsive, and confidence inspiring at speed. Yet it still handles well in the parking lot. Tread life appears good, though I only have about 5K miles on them.
If you are experiencing twitchy on the Michelins the Pirelli Angel GT takes twitchy to a whole new level! I had 22K miles on the bike before installing Angel GT and geez it was a good 500miles before I acclimated to those tires, coming from PR4GT. That twitchiness translated to poor ability to hold lines in curves compared to the PR4GT which was decent in those terms. The Angle GT also wore in 4 discrete planes of wear I I think if anything holding lines got worse as the tire wore. Turn-in was too easy as it were. Here are the Angel GT w/ about 6500m on them:
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Here are the Conti RA3's after about 5K miles which show a more uniform curvature--can't seem to rotate the photo:
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Interesting! Your experience with the Angel GT mirrors mine! Although you're much more scientific about it than I am. Twitchy at first, loved the way they handled after about 500 miles, noticed serious "chicken strips" at about 5,500 miles. The Angel GTs handle great in the rain, but I think I'll try something different next time.
So, I ended up buying the Continental Road Attack 3's. Getting them put on next week, we'll see how it goes. Thanks to all who responded to the question.
I got mine yesterday, but have only have a total of 5 miles on them from riding home. I'm looking forward to putting them though their paces.
One item of note. My installer said that they took "a lot of weight" compared to the Metzeler Roadtec 01. In fact the rear tire want a whole lot, so he spun it 180 degrees on the rim and then tried to balance again, which was better. Even so, both front and rear required increases in weight.
I'll be curious to see if the same is true of your tires.
I got mine yesterday, but have only have a total of 5 miles on them from riding home. I'm looking forward to putting them though their paces.
One item of note. My installer said that they took "a lot of weight" compared to the Metzeler Roadtec 01. In fact the rear tire want a whole lot, so he spun it 180 degrees on the rim and then tried to balance again, which was better. Even so, both front and rear required increases in weight.
I'll be curious to see if the same is true of your tires.
I Are there any differences that are significant? I probably lack the skill to know. We'll see how they do in the rain. They do seem quieter than the Michelins ever were.
Yep--the RA3's do not scallop at standard psi like the PT4GT does, they retain their shape best, make no significant noise, have fabulous grip on dry or wet. The only unknown for me is how long they will last. I'm at almost 6K now and lots of life left. They are the best tire for line holding for this motorcycle, at least compared to Michelin and Pirelli Angel GT.
IMO the only thing that gets Mich PR4GT's apparent large following is advertising (and the fact it has been the first tire on the bike for many, and why I bought a 2nd set!) and herd mentality!