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2018 GSA reflector recall
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lee
Debbie's Servant
I also thought the GSA fix would be a ugly extended bracket.
I thought the fix looked good on the GSA I saw at the Kansas City shop today and the owner seemed happy with the look.
R1200RS reflectors are not in at this time.
river-runner
New member
I see there are 29,000 bikes requiring the reflector fix, going back several years.
How long does it take to make, distribute, notify and install 29,000 fix-it parts?
My Mosko Moto bags came today, would like to hang them on the bike.....wish I had racks......(very, very nice quality and fast delivery. Whoever designed these bags has traveling experience and thought it out.)
You guys with the shock, reflector and turn signal recalls should get a desk and nameplate at the dealership!
How long does it take to make, distribute, notify and install 29,000 fix-it parts?
My Mosko Moto bags came today, would like to hang them on the bike.....wish I had racks......(very, very nice quality and fast delivery. Whoever designed these bags has traveling experience and thought it out.)
You guys with the shock, reflector and turn signal recalls should get a desk and nameplate at the dealership!
Does anyone know what the fix looks like for the Vario cases on an R1200GS? Since the Vario cases don't require the tubular frames that the aluminum boxes have (which can block the reflectors?), I assume there is no modification to the bike, only the cases?
I already put a set of these Motoreflective reflective panels on the rear of my Vario cases. The kit came with small reflective tabs for the sides of the Vario cases (which I installed). You can see what they look like by going to the Motoreflective link. From the photos of the aluminum side cases in this thread, I think I already have a larger reflective area on the sides of my cases than the mod would install.
I am considering adding the Motoreflective side panels to my cases. As the saying goes, you can't be too rich or too conspicuous. (I think I have that right.)
Ken
I already put a set of these Motoreflective reflective panels on the rear of my Vario cases. The kit came with small reflective tabs for the sides of the Vario cases (which I installed). You can see what they look like by going to the Motoreflective link. From the photos of the aluminum side cases in this thread, I think I already have a larger reflective area on the sides of my cases than the mod would install.
I am considering adding the Motoreflective side panels to my cases. As the saying goes, you can't be too rich or too conspicuous. (I think I have that right.)
Ken
Reflectors
When those fine new reflectors break what do you think the new ones will cost you $40 each or more or less?
When those fine new reflectors break what do you think the new ones will cost you $40 each or more or less?
pglaves
#13338
I have more than one bike with missing or obstructed reflectors and no LEO or annual inspection ever took notice. Their ability to hammer a manufacturer is not quite the same as trying to hammer every bike owner in the USA.
Safer?
Looking at these reflectors how do they make things safer for me? If I am crossing in front of another vehicle by the time they see these reflectors on the back of the bike I am past them or they have hit me. The size 3 or 4 square inches?
You can see red reflector on side bag, if you expand picture you can see the silver white dot mandated truck reflective stuff under the blue RS label. When the light hits this you can see it and I think it does make things safer for me.
Same stuff on side of milk crate ( top box and safety reflectors)
Looking at these reflectors how do they make things safer for me? If I am crossing in front of another vehicle by the time they see these reflectors on the back of the bike I am past them or they have hit me. The size 3 or 4 square inches?
You can see red reflector on side bag, if you expand picture you can see the silver white dot mandated truck reflective stuff under the blue RS label. When the light hits this you can see it and I think it does make things safer for me.
Same stuff on side of milk crate ( top box and safety reflectors)
yeehastephen
Member
I used to be a TX State approved inspector. Little things like reflectors cracked or missing I would just point out the problem to the vehicle owner and suggest they be fixed by next inspection.
UNTIL! I approved a bike missing the yellow front fork reflectors, attached the TX State sticker, and pulled the bike around for customer pickup. My local State Trooper in charge of my inspection station district just happened to visit my shop on the same day. He caught the error, read me the riot act and threatened to pull my license and my bond.
From then on I was a by-the-letter inspector guy. Don't take your bike to one of those shops! Ha!
yeehastephen
Member
Complete hijack...
This has nothing to do with the reflector recall, but while looking up reflector specs for Texas, look what I found in the Texas Vehicle Code apparently to appease our Goldwing and Harley auxiliary light fetish friends
LED GROUND EFFECT LIGHTING EQUIPMENT ON MOTORCYCLE. (a) In this section, "LED ground effect lighting equipment" means light emitting diode (LED) technology that is attached to the underbody of a motorcycle for the purpose of illuminating:
(1) the body of the motorcycle; or
(2) the ground below the motorcycle.
(b) A person may operate a motorcycle equipped with LED ground effect lighting that emits a non-flashing light.
This has nothing to do with the reflector recall, but while looking up reflector specs for Texas, look what I found in the Texas Vehicle Code apparently to appease our Goldwing and Harley auxiliary light fetish friends
LED GROUND EFFECT LIGHTING EQUIPMENT ON MOTORCYCLE. (a) In this section, "LED ground effect lighting equipment" means light emitting diode (LED) technology that is attached to the underbody of a motorcycle for the purpose of illuminating:
(1) the body of the motorcycle; or
(2) the ground below the motorcycle.
(b) A person may operate a motorcycle equipped with LED ground effect lighting that emits a non-flashing light.
gsinnc
Well-known member
Complete hijack...
This has nothing to do with the reflector recall, but while looking up reflector specs for Texas, look what I found in the Texas Vehicle Code apparently to appease our Goldwing and Harley auxiliary light fetish friends
LED GROUND EFFECT LIGHTING EQUIPMENT ON MOTORCYCLE. (a) In this section, "LED ground effect lighting equipment" means light emitting diode (LED) technology that is attached to the underbody of a motorcycle for the purpose of illuminating:
(1) the body of the motorcycle; or
(2) the ground below the motorcycle.
(b) A person may operate a motorcycle equipped with LED ground effect lighting that emits a non-flashing light.
HA! Who knew!
wbrownell9
New member
The fix has been approved by the platoon of bureaucrats, that's why the letter went out. Now it's just a matter of waiting (and waiting, and waiting, and...) for the parts.
It was a safety recall, the key words in the campaign are: "... risk of a crash."
Agreed, a service campaign would have been so much easier. I wouldn't be surprised if prior years have the same issue. But at least we'll be safely reflectorized (eventually) while those other guys will continue to take their lives in their hands every time they go out. Those things will kill you, doncha know.
Have had local shops hammered for pass thru inspections and loss of their permit. Good news is after March 2018, the inspection requirement in Texas is over for most vehicles except large commercial rigs and trailers over 5000 GVW
Remember when you had to have four square inches of reflective material on sides of your helmet or the LEO would kindly stop you?
gsinnc
Well-known member
Have had local shops hammered for pass thru inspections and loss of their permit. Good news is after March 2018, the inspection requirement in Texas is over for most vehicles except large commercial rigs and trailers over 5000 GVW
Remember when you had to have four square inches of reflective material on sides of your helmet or the LEO would kindly stop you?
WOW ... now that is a flashback! That was the law in NJ when I started riding in 1989. BUT in NJ you can get state inspection for FREE (at least that is how it used to be) if you went to the state inspection stations.
I am thrilled that in NC they eliminated the stupid sticker that they would slap on the bike somewhere. Thankfully my dealer always found an inconspicuous spot to put it. But what a pain!
yeehastephen
Member
I heard that Bill died. but, I'm so out of the loop I may have missed it.
I saw a news story on it and local shop said they had notice sent to them as a revenue stream is changing
We lost the stickers a year or so back, still required to secure a $12 inspection currently before heading to county assessor office for license sticker . Still use the sticker flap under license plate as a mudflap on a few bikes!
The trailer weight requirement changed in August and our toyhauler is now exempt
The whole reflector debacle is pretty silly to me.
gsinnc
Well-known member
Totally agree! And back in the days of the R1100RT and R1150RT you could get the bags with reflectors or the "Touring" badges on the sides. Next thing you know they will be recalling those too.
And the irony is many many BMW owners add way more reflective stuff to the bags on their own.
AKsuited
New member
Still in effect in New York: I'm the only motorcyclist in the state in compliance...
Totally agree! And back in the days of the R1100RT and R1150RT you could get the bags with reflectors or the "Touring" badges on the sides. Next thing you know they will be recalling those too.
And the irony is many many BMW owners add way more reflective stuff to the bags on their own.
Yep, I owned a R1150RT with Touring Badge, I still have them since I removed and replace with BMW reflectors. I do think it's important for the bike to have side markers that can be seen
Jay
1957mpd
Knight-Errant
Atacama Dealer Update
Here's what I was told at the dealership last week (end of April '18): Dealers have the parts req'd to address the reflector recall issue on the pannier frames, but are still awaiting the solution for adding side reflectors to the Atacama side panniers. As always, they say "in a few more weeks," but that's been the official language from the mothership all year.
I tired of waiting and bought the full Mosko Moto ensemble. A third-party vendor, they do not have to observe the same legal CYA protocols BMW and other "official" marques are obliged to. I figure I can find and mount suitable "reflectors" on the panniers myself.
Here's what I was told at the dealership last week (end of April '18): Dealers have the parts req'd to address the reflector recall issue on the pannier frames, but are still awaiting the solution for adding side reflectors to the Atacama side panniers. As always, they say "in a few more weeks," but that's been the official language from the mothership all year.
I tired of waiting and bought the full Mosko Moto ensemble. A third-party vendor, they do not have to observe the same legal CYA protocols BMW and other "official" marques are obliged to. I figure I can find and mount suitable "reflectors" on the panniers myself.
