Sorry, not going to read the entire stream of posts on this BUT....Is this right....seals start leaking during warranty period, but for some reason or another they were never fixed (correctly)? Then 3-5 years later the engine needs replaced? Did the dealer not fix it correctly? Why wait so long to push the "I'll hate them for doing this forever button"? Is the dealer not the culpable party? Actually, I don't think I'd pay much more than they've offered you for an '05 with an engine that needs replaced.