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IIRC you won’t be that deep into disassembly since you only need to strip off wheel, brakes, fender, etc. to get to the point where the sliders can be slid down off the fork tubes. So a check of wheel bearings and seals, brake pads and rotors, fresh fork fluid, and a bleed and flush of the front brake system when it’s all back together. If you have a service manual all the torque values you need should be listed there.
Best,
DeVern
The exposed rubber pieces covering the fork seal (not sure why but it's called a cup, we used to call them scrapers...), and the 'O' rings on the fork drain plugs. You might also consider changing the original brake lines and upgrade them to stainless. It's all pretty simple, straight forward work.
Good luck.
The brake lines are in really good shape, but will certainly give them a closer look when I get to the task.
The brake lines might look like they're in good shape but if they're rubber then they're just waiting to give you a huge headache, as in having your brakes seize on or failing completely and leaving you with no brakes whatsoever. Buy a set of Speigler lines, front and rear, and replace them all...NOW.
Hi all,
I am going to need to replace the fork seals on my bike.
Since we're pulling the front end apart sufficiently to do that job, can anyone recommend other maintenance jobs that I might want to do while in there? (may as well max out the time spent!)
Thanks,
Mike
I have sectioned the OEM brake lines from my 2003 K1200RS and found they have a very impressive semi-rigid nylon-type liner that actually contains the brake fluid. It also looks like it would be very difficult for that liner to ever "stretch out" or get soft due to its composition without splitting (which I'm not aware of as a problem)or conversely collapse, so while the outer rubber covering can deteriorate over time, I think the internal construction of the OEM lines I've seen would be good for a very long time. This bike has the power "whizzy" brakes so it makes sense to me that the brake lines would need to be compatible with extremely high pressures.
One other consideration is that BMW specifically recommends against using steel braided brake lines on the "wheel circuits" of any whizzy brake bikes. Those are the lines from the power brake pump to the calipers.
I have sectioned the OEM brake lines from my 2003 K1200RS and found they have a very impressive semi-rigid nylon-type liner that actually contains the brake fluid. It also looks like it would be very difficult for that liner to ever "stretch out" or get soft due to its composition without splitting (which I'm not aware of as a problem)or conversely collapse, so while the outer rubber covering can deteriorate over time, I think the internal construction of the OEM lines I've seen would be good for a very long time. This bike has the power "whizzy" brakes so it makes sense to me that the brake lines would need to be compatible with extremely high pressures.
One other consideration is that BMW specifically recommends against using steel braided brake lines on the "wheel circuits" of any whizzy brake bikes. Those are the lines from the power brake pump to the calipers. They state that the slight elasticity of the OEM lines is figured into the design of the power brakes and ABS system, and that the more rigid steel braided lines can potentially create a pressure spike that could trigger the pressure relief valves in the power brake system. Using steel braided lines for the "control circuit" (i.e. from the levers to the power pump) is permitted.
I've done as much research on this as I can and haven't found a single documented or ever presumed case where such a thing happened, and I know many people have replaced their OEM brake lines with steel braided ones. Still, BMW did issue such a service bulletin. YMMV
I've seen pictures of a "bulged out" (technical term) brake line failure on this forum so I have to respectfully disagree with how strong the inner brake line is. As well, I believe K bikes from 2005 onward, including ones with "whizzy" brakes, came from the factory with steel braided lines.
I think BMW issuing a statement on how sponginess is built into the system might be similar to one they might have issued stating that the final drives on some oilheads were designed to disintegrate at a variably determined point in time or that the HES wiring issue was a safety feature to control (very effectively) the speed of the motorcycle.
Greg,
On my '00 R1100RS, 115,000 miles, I had my front brake line split. This was the line coming off of the front master cylinder. Also, changing the brake lines changed the feel 100%, to a much more solid, firm grip and pedal. When the line ruptured, it wasn't in a panic braking type of situation. It just let go. For my money and piece of mind, I have stainless. For a twenty four year old bike, it might be a good choice.
Best to you in Boise.
Mike, yes replace the dust covers along with the seals. There are two great videos on the fork seals replacement, one from Chris Harris and the other from Kirk of the Illinois BMW club. Harris shows it from above and Kirk does it from below. Kirk does it on a K12LT but it’s the same fork and procedure. When you pull the lower fork legs you have to disconnect the brake lines where they are attached on each leg. The right side should come off easy, the left has a little 3 mm hex screw which is easy to strip. Use some penetrating oil and then some heat on it before you try to remove it.
OMG, you still have the original rubber brake hoses? Get them off the bike NOW.
I'm not at all opposed to steel braided brake lines, and I believe in proactive immanence and upgrades. But, I also wonder how many people who quickly claim that 10 or 20 year old "rubber" bike brake lines are dangerous have ever changed out the rubber brake lines on their cars? You should do what makes you feel comfortable.
As a matter of fact, that's the first thing I change on every car I get.
One fine spring day our good friend, Jim Shaw was finishing his several day visit from chilly Ohio, here in the Texas Big Bend. He had left snowy Hinckley headed the long way to Daytona for Bike Week, by way of Texas. He towed his GS here with his Buick. We spent several days riding the local area. Then it became time to head to Daytona.
He backed his Buick and trailer up to the garage and we loaded the GS. From there it was a slight downhill to a 90 degree turn in the driveway. As he approached the turn he applied the brakes, the pedal went to the floor, and he made a rather startling hard left turn to stay in the driveway. The Buick had burst one of its METAL pre-formed brake lines which had rusted through. The failure was no doubt caused by the extensive use of road salt in his local Ohio locality.
NAPA ordered a replacement brake line but the wrong part arrived. We tried another store. Finally a Buick dealership overnighted the correct part but poor Jim was several days late to Daytona.
At least the thing let go at the right time - not when he REALLY needed the the brakes!