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Hand gestures and motorcycles do they go together?

I guess I am not really a fan of this.

What's so hard about pushing a button?

And when something stops working properly, then what?

SPP
 
I'd rather just have illuminated switches.

I don't need power adjusted mirrors on my motorcycle. I only move mine once or twice a year and I do that while stopped.
 
All the "high-tech" and "must-have" goodies (at additional cost) create another problem...

So they come up with more high-tech and must-have goodies, at additional cost, to alleviate it? :deal
 
I hate to be That Guy.... but BMW seems to have gone down the same route with bikes as they did with their cars a few years ago. I can only hope that the reliability for which the bikes were famed does not follow what happened to the cars.
 
Seems to me

I heard somewhere the number one complaint by consumers regarding their cars was the tech stuff. The more high tech wiz bang stuff added the more to go wrong. That is with cars, why would anyone riding motorcycles want to go down that path as well?

I will stick with my airheads at least with them I don't have to visit the dealership to fix a problem with my GPS or bluetooth. St.
 
I am inventing gloves that are like mittens so the only thing you can do is wave, shake your fist, or do the Spock "live long and prosper" gesture :)
 
So taking your hands off the throttle or clutch to do some wonky gymnastics with your hand/finger (while wearing gloves) to trigger some switch? Yeah, that is going to be convenient. I sometimes wonder if they incorporate more technology just to torture me/us. Just my $0.02 worth, YMMV.
 
I am inventing gloves that are like mittens so the only thing you can do is wave, shake your fist, or do the Spock "live long and prosper" gesture :)

Aerostich and others have beaten you to the punch, at least with wet-weather gear:
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Conveniently designed so you can still salute errant cagers with the middle finger(s). :D

Gesture-activated controls are common in computing and handheld devices, but that's an entirely different domain than a motorcycle speeding down the highway. I really wish the bright young engineers at BMW would tumble to the fact that while gadgetry is neat and impressive, continued execution of the basics with precision and reliability is what sells in the long run. Perhaps their attention could be turned to assuring we don't see any more failing fuel gauges, broken driveshafts and final drives, brakes that don't get recalled before they are even sold, and valve trains that don't self-destruct from failed metallurgy. I'd take all of that, or even part of it, over any new whiz-bang technology they can turn out.
 
Aerostich and others have beaten you to the punch, at least with wet-weather gear:
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Conveniently designed so you can still salute errant cagers with the middle finger(s). :D

Gesture-activated controls are common in computing and handheld devices, but that's an entirely different domain than a motorcycle speeding down the highway. I really wish the bright young engineers at BMW would tumble to the fact that while gadgetry is neat and impressive, continued execution of the basics with precision and reliability is what sells in the long run. Perhaps their attention could be turned to assuring we don't see any more failing fuel gauges, broken driveshafts and final drives, brakes that don't get recalled before they are even sold, and valve trains that don't self-destruct from failed metallurgy. I'd take all of that, or even part of it, over any new whiz-bang technology they can turn out.

Nice. All my ideas are too late :(
 
I heard somewhere the number one complaint by consumers regarding their cars was the tech stuff. The more high tech wiz bang stuff added the more to go wrong. That is with cars, why would anyone riding motorcycles want to go down that path as well?

I will stick with my airheads at least with them I don't have to visit the dealership to fix a problem with my GPS or bluetooth. St.

One need not just stick with Airheads to avoid the problems of too much "tech" stuff. The Klassik K bikes have fuel injection but are dead stone reliable. The Oilheads have some tech features but no goofy stuff. Many of the F and G models are not overtechified.
 
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From the article:

Modern motorcycles come with an array of features and settings that take attention away from the road when engaging them – the patent from BMW will combat this and allow riders to cycle through settings, rider-aids, and adjustments by simply using a finger gesture.

The stated goal is to reduce distraction. This won't help. Any multi-step adjustment to any system on the bike is going to cause the rider to lose focus on his riding momentarily while he performs the steps. This is true regardless of whether the controls are physical knobs, buttons, and switches, or whether they're virtual via hand gestures.

Simple one-step actions like activating or canceling a turn signal don't require much thought and don't affect the rider's mental concentration. Most all the other actions ought to wait until the bike is parked.
 
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