Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: 2000 RT intermittent death

  1. #1

    2000 RT intermittent death

    Hey all. Got my first 2000 R-RT "new to me" with 54k 6 months ago. Ran great until a few weeks ago when 30 miles into a trip she shut down and turned over but wouldn't restart. Had her towed home and she restarted instantly. Suspecting the HES I yanked it and sent it to the GS guru in Canada who rebuilt it and sent it back. Put it back in the bike and she started, ran for a minute then died. Hung up my tools for the night, came back the next morning and she started right up and ran for ten minutes until I turned her off. Put the tupperware back on the next day and wouldn't start. Came back the next morning and started right up. Took a 10 minute ride with no problems.

    Not sure where to start troubleshooting. I read that I should check the coils, but I'm new to wrenching on the boxers and am not quite sure what that means.

    Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

  2. #2
    Registered User m_stock10506's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Trinity, NC
    Posts
    1,130
    Quote Originally Posted by kkahn View Post
    Hey all. Got my first 2000 R-RT "new to me" with 54k 6 months ago. Ran great until a few weeks ago when 30 miles into a trip she shut down and turned over but wouldn't restart. Had her towed home and she restarted instantly. Suspecting the HES I yanked it and sent it to the GS guru in Canada who rebuilt it and sent it back. Put it back in the bike and she started, ran for a minute then died. Hung up my tools for the night, came back the next morning and she started right up and ran for ten minutes until I turned her off. Put the tupperware back on the next day and wouldn't start. Came back the next morning and started right up. Took a 10 minute ride with no problems.

    Not sure where to start troubleshooting. I read that I should check the coils, but I'm new to wrenching on the boxers and am not quite sure what that means.

    Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
    With that year, I'll assume you have an R1100RT, but please advise if that isn't true.

    The single spark 1100 and early 1150 Oilheads, have a single, central, coil. It is located just behind the steering yoke, just under the front of the gas tank. I have personally replaced the coil on my RT, and the coil on the 1100RT of two of my friends. In each case, the symptom was engine would suddenly die, then restart. As time went on, you had to wait for longer time periods before the bike would restart. The coil overheats internally and stops producing spark. A new coil isn't terribly expensive, and if you can find a low mileage, good condition, used one, you might do okay.

    The good news is that the HES wiring upgrade you had done is a known problem with all of the early Oilheads. If you don't fix it, you will eventually get stranded. Fixed properly, you should never worry about it again.
    Michael Stock, Trinity, NC
    R1100RT, R100, R60/6

  3. #3
    Thanks Michael. Yes it is an R1100RT. I figured getting the HES rewired was worth it for preventative maintenance if nothing else. Quick question on the coil. If it's an overheating issue, would that be the culprit if the bike wouldn't start with a cold engine after sitting overnight?

  4. #4
    Next time it won't start or run pull a plug wire and spark plug and test for spark.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://web.bigbend.net/~glaves/

  5. #5
    Registered User m_stock10506's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Trinity, NC
    Posts
    1,130
    The Oilhead RT does a great job of giving you hints. Every time you get ready to start the bike, watch the RID, and listen carefully at the tank for the sound of the fuel pump engaging for about a second. When you turn the ignition on, and lift the side stand, the RID should activate- the gear indicator and fuel gauge will display. The oil temperature will too, but not if the motor is cold. The display and the fuel pump will activate at the same time. The critical thing is that you hear the fuel pump cycle. Very slight possibility that the fuel pump relay is not always making contact. Iíd put it in the remote category, but possible. Intermittent problems are always tough to diagnose. Paulís suggestion to check for spark is also excellent.
    Michael Stock, Trinity, NC
    R1100RT, R100, R60/6

  6. #6
    Thanks. Checked the plugs and they seemed ok. Took it out for a 20 minute ride with no problems. Guess I'll just keep doing that until it dies again.

  7. #7
    2000 1100RT FLYER5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Montrose PA
    Posts
    31
    I recommend not idling the bike for more than a few mins as well. Its not good for them.

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Posts
    73
    Any update on this issue? I just had my bike turn off, crank right back up, and then turn off about 30 seconds later. I've replaced the HES so wondering if this might be the issue. Will be taking it out this weekend to see if it repeats. I've got a 2000 R1100RS.

  9. #9
    Registered User jrogers's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2021
    Location
    Nor-Cal
    Posts
    27
    Might be a coil problem.
    02 R1150R ABS, 04 R1150R, 05 R1100S BCR, 16 S1000XR

  10. #10
    Kawa Afterthought weschmann's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    DeSoto MO
    Posts
    780
    I'm picking up a good condition 94 r 1100 rs, so religiously watching any 1100 series issues. My new to me bike has 56000 miles on the clock and a one owner bike. So this information about the coil is much appreciated. I'm wondering if as a preventative measure I should just go ahead and replace the coil and send the HES sensor off for rework. I'm a big proponent for preventative maintenance so kind of plan on tackling this topics in my tinker time. Could I possible get the contact info for the Canadian gentleman who rework the sensor?. Thanks.

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by weschmann View Post
    I'm picking up a good condition 94 r 1100 rs, so religiously watching any 1100 series issues. My new to me bike has 56000 miles on the clock and a one owner bike. So this information about the coil is much appreciated. I'm wondering if as a preventative measure I should just go ahead and replace the coil and send the HES sensor off for rework. I'm a big proponent for preventative maintenance so kind of plan on tackling this topics in my tinker time. Could I possible get the contact info for the Canadian gentleman who rework the sensor?. Thanks.
    If the HES has not been rewired then absolutely get that done. As for coils, while a failure can happen coil failure is not a known common weak point on Oilhead bikes.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://web.bigbend.net/~glaves/

  12. #12
    not so retired henzilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    CENTEX USA
    Posts
    10,933
    The stick coils on late model 1150’s and 1200’s dual plug engines are the wonky ones . The 1100 is good to go!

    And GSAddict is your bud!
    Steve Henson-Mod Team and past prez SABMWRA

    Be decisive, right or wrong.The road of life is paved with
    flat squirrels who couldn't make a decision~unknown

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by henzilla View Post
    The stick coils on late model 1150ís and 1200ís dual plug engines are the wonky ones . The 1100 is good to go!

    And GSAddict is your bud!
    Indeed, in my post above I should have been clear about the 1100 and 1150 single plug bikes versus those with the dual plugs and stick coils. "Progress" is not always what is is cracked up to be.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://web.bigbend.net/~glaves/

  14. #14
    Another possible cause, is the ignition wiring, that exits from the key ignition, and is wrapped around the head stock frame work. Mine developed a small break in one wire, but due the fact that it had been zip tied to the frame, it would separate, and reconnect intermittently. I replaced that portion of the wiring harness. Mine had this problem at about 65000 miles.
    2000 R1100 RS
    2009 Jaguar XK

  15. #15
    RK Ryder
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    London, Ontario
    Posts
    3,100
    A few years ago I had a similar problem and the wiring/switch at the side stand switch that was the culprit.
    Paul F. Ruffell
    Retired and riding my RTs, the '87 K100 & the '98 R1100 !
    Knights of the Roundel #333

Similar Threads

  1. 2000 R1150gs... death rattle?
    By 117336 in forum Oilheads
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-20-2010, 12:49 AM
  2. tranny death?
    By MANONTHEMULE in forum Oilheads
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-17-2009, 10:16 PM
  3. Back from the Death
    By beamster in forum Airheads
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 08-14-2009, 04:28 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •