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    Do you think Bmw will change the GS unit to match the RT screen in the coming years?


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    No. GS riders love adventure and a GPS takes all the fun out of it.
    Besides that big screen would be to big for a GS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    You might want to take a look at another thread regarding the 2021 R1250RT and a problem with the radio system. See: https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread...nstalled-later

    The bike shown in the Ventura County photos does not have a radio antenna, which probably means it is lacking the electronics.
    radio antenna no longer on the outside...
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    I don't know where the radio antenna is, but there is a 2021 alpine white RT in my garage, and I'm loving it. The TIF is bright and clear, nav system connects perfectly with my phone, looking forward to lots of miles and Great Falls at the end. I'm for one glad there is no radio, and no TPMS. Not missing them in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandhumphreyme View Post
    I don't know where the radio antenna is, but there is a 2021 alpine white RT in my garage, and I'm loving it. The TIF is bright and clear, nav system connects perfectly with my phone, looking forward to lots of miles and Great Falls at the end. I'm for one glad there is no radio, and no TPMS. Not missing them in the least.
    Without the TPMS will there be any warning signs that a tire is going down? I had a rear flat tire on my 2014 R 1200 RT and thanks to the systems in place I was able to get it stopped safely from 75 MPH while I still had air in the tire, although it was losing it fast.

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    There are aftermarket TPMS systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfricker View Post
    Without the TPMS will there be any warning signs that a tire is going down?
    No. Not other than the tactile feedback from a low and deflating tire. My advice is to get on the Internet and find the aftermarket system you like best; buy one; and install it.
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    One trip over a rough terrain pass and that I-Pad sitting there would be gone on a GS. I would never want something like that on a bike going off road.

    I agree it is a piece of art to look at but it is not practical for a trail bike especial one you stand up on to ride. It is a accident waiting to happen.

    Cymark has been making anti theft devices for them and the smaller TFT screens, as in Europe they just walk up to a bike and rock the screen back and forth and take it. I guess it is on rubber mounts or insulators of some type and it just breaks the dash and not the screens. Now just like a air bag I am not sure who they are or how many have been stolen but Cymark is a great company to deal with and their products are second to none.

    So IMHO a GS rider may like a smaller TFT like they got on a 1250 but I dont think many would want a RT sized screen on a GS. I do not like the implementation on the RT and of course that is subjective, but I have no clue how you would do it on a GS? Already a pretty full and busy dash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandhumphreyme View Post
    I don't know where the radio antenna is, but there is a 2021 alpine white RT in my garage, and I'm loving it. The TIF is bright and clear, nav system connects perfectly with my phone, looking forward to lots of miles and Great Falls at the end. I'm for one glad there is no radio, and no TPMS. Not missing them in the least.
    No, there will be no early warning, just like the bikes I rode for 30 years prior to the technology being applied. Conversely there will be no $300 plus dollar charge for replacement when the batteries die.

    The "Motrrad Connected" app is working flawlessly. I've downloaded maps of the CONUS to my phone via the app, which I understand was prepared via collaboration with TomTom. You then utilize your cellphone just like a GPS. The app connects to the bike via Wi-Fi and will project either a full screen Navigation window or partial screen your choice. You can utilize the wonder wheel to skip way points, change destinations etc. The wonder wheel will also control telephone and music on the phone and connects very well to my Sena headset via Bluetooth. Still learning the bells and whistles. So far not missing the factory radio/xm setup at all. The system on the 2018RT that I had would never connect very well to the Sena nor sound all that good when it did so to learn it was only being offered as an extra on the 2021, I was delighted to not have to pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandhumphreyme View Post
    No, there will be no early warning, just like the bikes I rode for 30 years prior to the technology being applied. Conversely there will be no $300 plus dollar charge for replacement when the batteries die.
    A quick internet search discloses at least a dozen TPMS systems for motorcycles that cost less than $100. There are differences so if interested look carefully. Some receiving units take batteries. Some use USB to charge the built-in battery. Many look a lot alike, as in maybe a single manufacturer. Most are probably Chinese.

    I have one such system on my G310. With about 2 minutes of work I can put the sensors and receiver on a different bike. Voni has a 4 sensor system originally intended for a bike and trailer. We put two sensors on one bike and the other two on her other bike. The single receiver can easily move bike to bike.

    I find accuracy within a pound or so compared to my best gauge. It is the alarm function I want anyway. In 2021 TPMS does not need to be a big problem. There are many solutions available. Read carefully and take your pick. It will probably cost less than $100 for your pick of a system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandhumphreyme View Post
    No, there will be no early warning, just like the bikes I rode for 30 years prior to the technology being applied. Conversely there will be no $300 plus dollar charge for replacement when the batteries die.

    The "Motrrad Connected" app is working flawlessly. I've downloaded maps of the CONUS to my phone via the app, which I understand was prepared via collaboration with TomTom. You then utilize your cellphone just like a GPS. The app connects to the bike via Wi-Fi and will project either a full screen Navigation window or partial screen your choice. You can utilize the wonder wheel to skip way points, change destinations etc. The wonder wheel will also control telephone and music on the phone and connects very well to my Sena headset via Bluetooth. Still learning the bells and whistles. So far not missing the factory radio/xm setup at all. The system on the 2018RT that I had would never connect very well to the Sena nor sound all that good when it did so to learn it was only being offered as an extra on the 2021, I was delighted to not have to pay for it.
    Which Sena model do you have? I tried to pair mine with the 20S and am having issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    A quick internet search discloses at least a dozen TPMS systems for motorcycles that cost less than $100. There are differences so if interested look carefully. Some receiving units take batteries. Some use USB to charge the built-in battery. Many look a lot alike, as in maybe a single manufacturer. Most are probably Chinese.

    I have one such system on my G310. With about 2 minutes of work I can put the sensors and receiver on a different bike. Voni has a 4 sensor system originally intended for a bike and trailer. We put two sensors on one bike and the other two on her other bike. The single receiver can easily move bike to bike.

    I find accuracy within a pound or so compared to my best gauge. It is the alarm function I want anyway. In 2021 TPMS does not need to be a big problem. There are many solutions available. Read carefully and take your pick. It will probably cost less than $100 for your pick of a system.
    Good information. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfricker View Post
    Which Sena model do you have? I tried to pair mine with the 20S and am having issues.
    SMH10r. What issues are you having?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandhumphreyme View Post
    SMH10r. What issues are you having?
    Unable to hear media. I have tried deleting and re pairing the phone and the Sena

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfricker View Post
    Unable to hear media. I have tried deleting and re pairing the phone and the Sena
    Does it appear that the media is playing? I had to adjust the volume on my phone to get output level correct in the Sena. Hope you get it sorted out, I find Bluetooth exceedingly frustrating when it doesn't work.

    I spoke too soon, seems that I'm now having trouble hearing navigation turn by turn instructions through Sena even though phone and media work perfectly. I've reinstalled the app, will give it a try, it worked for a time, so I'm certain there's just something wanky that I've done to the phone to mess things up.
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