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    Growing up with interest in sports car and Grand Prix prototype racing I didn't care a flip about Nascar. Roundy round and turn left, good old boys and all that but in 1986 I went to see the Daytona Twin 125s during Speed Week. It was a Wednesday and I had the day off with nothing better to do. That year Rusty Schrader was Rookie of the Year and Bill Elliot was still the fastest Nascar record lap holder with a 212 mph lap at Talladega. The seat I picked was right about at the exit end of pit row so looking down and to the left I could see the drivers' hands working the wheel as they went through the middle of the tri-oval turn marked by the start/finish line. The track is not banked much there. Schrader's car was "tight" or tended to understeer and Elliot's car was set up "loose" or prone to oversteer. Those two battled for nearly every lap for 1 - 2 position and swapped 1 - 2 repeatedly. The pattern was Schrader's faster car caught and passed Elliot on the back straight and when exiting turn 4 headed to the tri-oval turn Elliot would pass Schrader again and two wide they came across the start/finish line. There was a patched spot of racing surface in the apex of the tri-oval and Elliot hit that same spot nearly exactly every lap, the tail of his car about 1 or 2 feet out of line, his hands vigorously holding the car in a slide at uh, 190 mph or so. Schrader had to take the upper line and they went through that turn door handle decal to door handle decal lap after lap the entire race. It changed my opinion of Nascar drivers. The venue and track still held little appeal to me but those guys had to handle 3500 lb. brutes in traffic and that takes a skill and lack of fear I came to appreciate. I went to the July race, the Firecracker 400, for about 10 years straight after that. I respect the drivers and the skill it takes to compete in Cup races.

    On a side note I have about 125 miles experience riding the Daytona track itself on my Goldwing. Daytona Speedway hosts a Pro/AM PTO Triathlon on the DIS grounds and surrounding roads. The past two years I two-up'd a cycling judge during the cycling portions of the event. Last year I toted one of two color commentators for the event. They wired me and the other rider with sound so the TV crew got the video footage they wanted. The 125 miles is mostly under 35 mph, boo. Still, we have riding access to the entire grounds and when the producer wants us to get to a shot we ride all over the place, through fenced-off passages in the infield, the pits, and the infield course to get there. During the amateur and professional run portions we rode the sports car course.
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    Who's "Rusty Schrader"? A long lost relative of mine?? I've given up trying to horn in on the Schrader valve fortune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    Who's "Rusty Schrader"? A long lost relative of mine?? I've given up trying to horn in on the Schrader valve fortune.
    The illegitament step-child of Rusty Wallace and Ken Schrader?

    Rusty was Rookie of the year in 1984, Kenny in 1985. Both incredible drivers!

    Great story Dave! After 36 years, getting the minor details crossed up is not the important thing. You really captured the important part, the intensity and the skill that made such an impression.

    I started going to the Cup races at Riverside. Went to the last three races '85, '86, '87 (?). Then bought the first view motorhome spot when they moved the race to Sears Point. Went every year for about 10 years until they built a grandstand in front of us. Went back to watching on TV.

    Started going to races in the late sixties at Laguna Seca and Sears Point, mostly as a spectator. Sometimes working course security. The Golden Years of CanAm and TransAm! Then got involved with an independant TransAm team. Then decided to run my own cars in SCCA for awhile. So I have a deep appreciation for the skill, dedication, and long hours of work that are involved. That is why I HATE the big wrecks on the super speedways so much!




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    Quote Originally Posted by 98lee View Post
    The illegitament step-child of Rusty Wallace and Ken Schrader?
    That's what I was thinking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    Who's "Rusty Schrader"? A long lost relative of mine?? I've given up trying to horn in on the Schrader valve fortune.
    My bad, his name is Ken Schrader and he was Rooky of the year the year before, in 1985 not '86.
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    That WOULD make him the reigning Rookie of the Year at Daytona in '86.

    The first names of Cup drivers were easy to confuse back then. Schrader went by Kenny back then. Then you had Rusty, Jimmy, Tommy, Johnny, Eddie, Bobby, Davey, Donnie, Robbie, Buddy, Benny, Ricky, Harry, Terry, and more. See a pattern?



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    Quote Originally Posted by 98lee View Post
    That WOULD make him the reigning Rookie of the Year at Daytona in '86.

    The first names of Cup drivers were easy to confuse back then. Schrader went by Kenny back then. Then you had Rusty, Jimmy, Tommy, Johnny, Eddie, Bobby, Davey, Donnie, Robbie, Buddy, Benny, Ricky, Harry, Terry, and more. See a pattern?



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    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    Iíll buy a vowel please, Pat.
    Is it a "y"?



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    The best, and most accurate, depiction of NASCAR racing is the movie...Talladega Nights.

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    And Talladega Nights starred...Ricky Bobby!
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    Y'all are forgetting the importance of Bob. As a middle name! Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, etc.
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    I thought everybody in NASCAR was Bubba or Junior.

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    There was never a better name for a NASCAR driver than "Fireball" Roberts.
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    I always remembered Jimmy "Smut" Means and Michael "Fatback" McSwain, although Fatback was a crew chief.



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