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Getting the shot
- Thread starter dennisdarrow
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And in the immortal words of Forrest Gump: "Stupid is as stupid does."
AKsuited
New member
You'll have to prove that with some hard evidence before I would believe a word of that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...25d07c-6d72-11eb-a66e-e27046e9e898_story.html
A few countries have reported deaths following administration of Covid-19 vaccines, but medical specialists have found no evidence of a connection to the inoculations.
You ride a motorcycle on public roads, and you're afraid of a vaccination? Really?
Harry
brownie0486
Well-known member
I'm not afraid to take it, I'm afraid of the consequences of taking it. Just had a good SAR buddy in perfect health get his shot, 3 days later he's in the hospital. 2 days later he's dead, they couldn't save him.
I believe in cause and affect. Will you also deny that many healthcare workers are refusing to take the shot/s? What do you think they know that the general population isn't being told?
AKsuited
New member
Perfectly healthy people die all the time. It's part of life. You get old, sooner or later you die, often from something like a stroke or heart attack with no advance warning.
You want to stay in lockdown forever, go for it. Life is too short for that. I've had the Moderna #1 and will get #2 on March 30th. I'm happy to do my part in defeating COVID, in protecting myself, other family members, and yes, perfect strangers. We get vaccinated for the good of all.
Harry
You want to stay in lockdown forever, go for it. Life is too short for that. I've had the Moderna #1 and will get #2 on March 30th. I'm happy to do my part in defeating COVID, in protecting myself, other family members, and yes, perfect strangers. We get vaccinated for the good of all.
Harry
brownie0486
Well-known member
Several states have lifted all restrictions. That's millions of people who are no longer under any restrictions in some states. Do you believe that's because everyone in that state got their shots? Hardly, and that begs the question why are some states still in lock down mode?
You're aware you can still contract covid AFTER receiving the shot/s? No different than the common flu. People still get it after taking a flu shot too.
I'll tell my guess, it's a political decision. The fear mongering cdc is known to have become politicized. Fauci has changed his mind on recommendations far too often to even be given a second glance as to his veracity. He's become a political puppet as well.
The SAR member didn't die from natural causes, it was a problem with his lungs AFTER getting that shot. Cause and affect. Others have died fairly soon after getting the vaccine shot and though the gov wants you to believe it wasn't due to the shot, understand that a vaccine goes through at least 2-3 years of trials and this was pumped out in less than 6 months and approved. That right there suggests they don't know the full affects the shot will have on a large portion of the country.
I have NO faith in gov protecting MY health. I do have faith that gov has NEVER given the straight facts about anything, ever, however. Like lemmings to the sea, people put too much faith in a corrupt gov with their own agenda/s
pglaves
#13338
More than half a million in the United States dead from the disease. No deaths during the clinical trials. Maybe a very small number of deaths in reaction. You are safer taking the vaccine than getting into your shower, walking across a street, or driving a car. As for the minimum wage healthcare workers in nursing homes vs real epidemiologists, well take your pick who to trust.
Have we found our resident anti-vaxxer?
Have we found our resident anti-vaxxer?
brownie0486
Well-known member
1.3 million [ roughly ] people die every year in auto accidents. I'm safer not taking the shot that driving a vehicle. 655,000 die each year of heart disease. Perhaps gov should force people to not drive, not eat junk food, fast food, and go on mandatory diets for obesity?
The fear mongering politicians with an agenda are more dangerous than not taking the shot IMO
Have we found our resident anti-vaxxer?
Perhaps, I've not taken a flu shot in decades after doing so just once, and becoming sick from the shot. Nope, if I'm healthy I don't need to be stuck with a chemical cocktail
pglaves
#13338
But you do have faith that those state governments (Governors) lifting those restrictions are providing the straight facts. I find that humorous.
AKsuited
New member
The government did not come up with these vaccines, extremely intelligent, dedicated healthcare experts came up with them. Governments around the world merely encouraged and funded the efforts to invent and produce effective vaccines. We should all be thankful for those efforts which have succeeded in providing us with highly effective vaccines in record time.
Harry
brownie0486
Well-known member
Ya, dedicated drug companies came up with the vaccine. And the cdc didn't then, nor does today, have the research behind these shots regarding long term affects. It was pushed on the public by gov, the drug companies were pushed by gov to provide something.
If you're at risk, take the damned shot if you so choose. But there's NO reason to push it on healthy people. That SAR member could trek 10 miles over 3 mountain ranges in the Superstitions in 5 hours. If he'd had any underlying health issues or lung problems, he'd have been well aware of it.
Instead, he succumbed to the wifes BS about taking it, now he's dead from lung complications [ and you can't convince his wife nor many of us who knew him ] it wasn't due to taking the shot. She's devastated as she FORCED him into getting something he absolutely didn't need.
Mask
The mask will make it safer for members at the rally, but will make it harder to drink beers in the beer garden. If Maddog is picking the beers out that will be sold.
Wearing a mask will be a win win situation
The mask will make it safer for members at the rally, but will make it harder to drink beers in the beer garden. If Maddog is picking the beers out that will be sold.
Wearing a mask will be a win win situation
dennisdarrow
#4869 Earned Lifetime mem
Had my 2nd on 3-1............No pain, chills, fevers, or nausea. At the most just felt kinda puny for 4 or 5 days with each succeeding day a bit stronger. Now, have gone riding the mules up onto the mountains for the last several days and getting ready to head out again today. What is great is that here in the county it feels great to be out amongst the old folks and feeling sorry for the KNOW-IT-ALLs even here among us that bad mouth those of us who choose to do what we please and yes, pleases me to take the durn shots.......Shut your wise butt crack and go someplace to pontificate to someone who chooses not to have any part of even finding something that you quote.........lol
My gotta be going on 50 years of membership, 75th birthday in a few days, and a paid in full of years and years of membership equating into "LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP"!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, so glad to have stayed alive due to perhaps taking my Covid shots..........Now to celebrate those years of lifetime paid in full.............God bless.........Dennis
My gotta be going on 50 years of membership, 75th birthday in a few days, and a paid in full of years and years of membership equating into "LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP"!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, so glad to have stayed alive due to perhaps taking my Covid shots..........Now to celebrate those years of lifetime paid in full.............God bless.........Dennis
pglaves
#13338
Great personal anecdote. Here is mine. Joined the Air Force; with no choice whatsoever got in line and received nine shots in fewer minutes passing through a line of medics with shot air-guns. Step forward, pow. Step forward, pow. Sore arm the next day. Traveled to motorcycle tour in Africa. Required to get three additional shots. Got shots. Twenty years of flu vaccinations. No negative reaction except a sore arm for a day once or twice. No flu.
We each have our own circumstances. If I were you I probably would not get the vaccine. And I certainly would not say that you should. But likewise nobody including you should tell others that they should not get the vaccine. That oversteps the bounds of the meaning of your personal anecdotal experiences.
brownie0486
Well-known member
Never said anyone shouldn't take the shot if that's what they choose to do. But I'm not inclined to be told I'm remiss if I or others don't take it. Keep your personal attacks to yourself, I'm not your red headed step child or whipping boy either.
Have we found our resident anti-vaxxer?
Yes.
OK, folks. As with tire threads, and oil threads, and Fargo or no Fargo, this is a topic with wildly varying opinions. As far as I've seen over the years, this kind of discourse trying to change the other person's opinion never works. So, if you've stated your opinion up to this point, there's really no need to state it over and over again. Don't confuse us with facts...our minds are made up! 
Please let's move on with other recounts of getting the shot, or not, but there's no need for continued opinionating.
Thanks, the Mod Team!
Please let's move on with other recounts of getting the shot, or not, but there's no need for continued opinionating.Thanks, the Mod Team!
brownie0486
Well-known member
Never made any mention of others not getting the shot if they so chose to do so. If I have, I can't find it in any of my posts. If you can, please show us where I said anyone else should not get the shot/s.
Like yourself, went through the lines getting shots. They used an airgun of some kind that delivered maybe 4-6 shots at a time prior to staging battalion for the trip to SE Asia. This was early 70. The one single shot I got was in the butt, and they made us run 3 miles immediately after to get that fluid courses through our bodies. That hurt worse than the airgun multiple shots.
That article was from the begining of January, before hardly any doses had been administered. I can understand them not wanting to be the first to try this new vaccine, esspecially since, at the time, it appeared to have been rushed without all the standard safety policies followed. But now, after more than 95 million doses administered in this country alone (326 million world wide) with minimal serious issues, I think that hesitation has changed. Also, the "experimental" classification is no longer appropriate.
So, get your shot or not, but joining the tin foil hat crowd and spreading misinformation is not helpful to anyone.
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