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    The wisdom (logic?) of bmw using torx plus plugs rather than plain torx is dumbfounding, especially for low torque plugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccolwell View Post
    I just started flushing the brake fluid in my 2020 R1250R. Front went fine but I couldn't get the rear reservoir cap off. It appears to be a twist off but won't budge. Am I missing something?

    And is there a reasonably priced service manual anywhere for wetheads?
    I believe you need to push down and turn

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    I didn't want to waste time looking locally for a set of toes plus bits so I went with this: Neiko 10086A Standard Torx Plus Bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UC9WJE...ing=UTF8&psc=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiofun1 View Post
    I didn't want to waste time looking locally for a set of toes plus bits so I went with this: Neiko 10086A Standard Torx Plus Bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UC9WJE...ing=UTF8&psc=1
    I looked yesterday and didn't spot that set.
    I ended up just buying the one bit.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/29171788489...7e5e%7Ciid%3A1

    In 2016 I checked the places in town that had tool and non of the stores had Torx Plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I looked yesterday and didn't spot that set.
    I ended up just buying the one bit.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/29171788489...7e5e%7Ciid%3A1

    In 2016 I checked the places in town that had tool and non of the stores had Torx Plus.
    Are these for a 3/8 ratchet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dann View Post
    Are these for a 3/8 ratchet?
    Mine is 3/8"
    Bobby's set is 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2"

    Bobby is radiofun1
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    Quote Originally Posted by radiofun1 View Post
    I didn't want to waste time looking locally for a set of toes plus bits so I went with this: Neiko 10086A Standard Torx Plus Bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UC9WJE...ing=UTF8&psc=1
    My 45 Torx Plus arrived today and did not fit.
    Check to see if any of yours fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I looked yesterday and didn't spot that set.
    I ended up just buying the one bit.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/29171788489...7e5e%7Ciid%3A1

    In 2016 I checked the places in town that had tool and non of the stores had Torx Plus.
    Torx Plus for Final Drive
    For future reference (if anyone ever uses the "Search Function") to this tool to remove the Final Drive drain plug...

    The above listed tool bit by OTC is #6188, which is size TP45. Unfortunately, that does not fit the drain plug on the FD. It is too large by one size.
    What does work, is OTC #6187, which is size TP40. Both are 3/8 drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...t_b_prod_image

    I have been using a standard Torx T45 for years with success, since a standard Torx40 will slip in the drain plug. But, thanks to Lee, this TorxPlus 40 is the exact right tool for the OEM FD drain plug.

    This plug is used on these bikes according to RealOEM.com. https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=33117705854


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxflyer View Post
    Torx Plus for Final Drive
    For future reference (if anyone ever uses the "Search Function") to this tool to remove the Final Drive drain plug...

    The above listed tool bit by OTC is #6188, which is size TP45. Unfortunately, that does not fit the drain plug on the FD. It is too large by one size.
    What does work, is OTC #6187, which is size TP40. Both are 3/8 drive. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...t_b_prod_image

    I have been using a standard Torx T45 for years with success, since a standard Torx40 will slip in the drain plug. But, thanks to Lee, this TorxPlus 40 is the exact right tool for the OEM FD drain plug.

    This plug is used on these bikes according to RealOEM.com. https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=33117705854

    Thanks. I was thinking TP 40 would be the correct tool.
    The standard T45 worked fine but in the future it would bug me not using the exact correct tool
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    Here's the OTC #6187 TP40 in the drain plug of my 2017RT.
    Fit is good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxflyer View Post
    Here's the OTC #6187 TP40 in the drain plug of my 2017RT.
    Fit is good.

    Lee
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    Just bought a set Torex Plus bits. Neiko 10086A Standard Torx Plus Bit Socket Set | 12 Piece | TP8 - TP60
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    All this Torx and Torx-Plus talk. I wonder if I have run across TP and just used regular Torx and didnít know it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    All this Torx and Torx-Plus talk. I wonder if I have run across TP and just used regular Torx and didn’t know it
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    I didn't realize it on the final drive since 2011. K1300S, R1200RS and R1250RS.
    I can't believe I noticed Torx Plus on the front brake reservoir cover but not the final drive.
    I remember thinking the final drive plug looked strange but didn't think much about it when the regular Torx bit seemed to fit.
    Last edited by Lee; 01-22-2022 at 12:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I didn't realize it on the final drive since 2011. K1300S, R1200RS and R1250RS.
    I can't believe I noticed Torx Plus on the front brake reservoir cover but not the final drive.
    I remember thinking the final drive plug look strange but didn't think much about it when the regular Torx bit seem to fit.
    My experience is very similar. Guess we solved a non-problem.
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