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    welcome to the new BMW M. M stands for Marketing, not Motorsport. they figure anything with an "M" in the name will sell...for more profit.

    look at the car line. every model in the line up has an "MSport", "M" and "M competition" version. heck there are now even "M competition SPORT" versions! LOL...there is an MCS version of the X3 SUV. REALLY??? it is an SUV!!

    M means nothing nowadays. well maybe More Money for BMW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1100S View Post
    Having just last week purchased a new 201HP sport bike, I have to say this timing couldn't be worse. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to make do...
    Bummer, Dude! I hope you can face the disappointment and humiliation bravely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    This seems to be an amazing bike but don't get carried away with thoughts of the massive horsepower. The S1000RR makes 204 hp and the M1000RR makes 212 hp, or so they say. So that is a 3% increase essentially at redline where most of us don't ride much of the time. It is the midrange torque curves and handling changes that will be the most important.
    The RR weighs 450 pounds. The M weighs 426 pounds.
    The weight lose will probably be noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Is that more HP than a Focus?
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    I'm sure it probably is.
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    Competing with Ducati V4 Panigale

    If Nate Kern comes to your dealer to discuss this bike, donít miss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    Is that more HP than a Focus?
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    In 2018 the HP ranged from 123 to 350.
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    K1300S v M S1000RR

    Historical context, I think my 2010 K1300S (wet) weighed 569 pounds; the new spawn, (wet) 451 lbs (426 lbs plus 4.2 gal at 6 lbs/gal) so call it 118 pounds lighter. A K1300S' shaft drive assembly weighs around 30 lbs on its own so in addition to less torque loss to the rear wheel, weight advantage to the chain-drive. The new kid makes 212 hp, 37 hp or about 18% more than the K1300S' 175 hp. The K1300S will do over 170 mph (don't ask). Guessin' this one is good for 200+ in the right hands and the right environment, but that's not the point. It was designed to get up and go out of the corners in the straights on a track, ridden by a pro; not on the interstate hwy by this 63 yr-old with no delusions of immortality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1957mpd View Post
    It was designed to get up and go out of the corners in the straights on a track, ridden by a pro; not on the interstate hwy by this 63 yr-old with no delusions of immortality.
    Nor on twisty country roads by this 71 year-old with a similar lack of delusions. Love the low weight; half that power would suit me nicely.
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    Well it's nice to see Motorrad releasing bikes on both ends of the spectrum. They're not aimed at the MOA sector of the market.
    Last edited by Rinty; 09-25-2020 at 03:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1957mpd View Post
    It was designed to get up and go out of the corners in the straights on a track, ridden by a pro; not on the interstate hwy by this 63 yr-old with no delusions of immortality.
    It was designed to pop your eyeballs out under braking, scrape your knee while cornering and then powerslide like like a mofo exiting the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    It was designed to pop your eyeballs out under braking, scrape your knee while cornering and then powerslide like like a mofo exiting the corner.
    In other words, be cool 😎 and have some fun on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    It was designed to pop your eyeballs out under braking, scrape your knee while cornering and then powerslide like like a mofo exiting the corner.
    I think those exact words were in the design brief.

    Anyone here who hasn't ridden a 175-200 hp sport bike doesn't have the credibility to criticize this new bike.

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    I wonder if any of the optional M accessories will fit on an airhead?

    They’re kinda expensive but may be worth it if, you know, it makes a big difference.
    At the very least the M perfomance passenger footrest set left/right should fit.

    Harley has been doing this for years. Screaming Eagle and chrome do-dads have added significantly to their bottom line. Think CVO ...

    Anybody here remember swarups?
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    I am now convinced the the BMW MOA needs to arrange and sponsor on-track schools and supervised track days for members. I am equally convinced that the M1000RR bikes and R18 bikes need to be in different on-track groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    I am now convinced the the BMW MOA needs to arrange and sponsor on-track schools and supervised track days for members. I am equally convinced that the M1000RR bikes and R18 bikes need to be in different on-track groups.
    R18 on a track... That would be funny. If it made it around a corner, fire extinguishers would be needed everywhere to put out the grass fires from the sparks from all the parts dragging...
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