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Not good news for Garmin users

I just texted the article to my commander, and some standardization and maintenance personnel. Our current database in our military aircraft goes till August 13th beyond that we can’t fly instruments nor can the airlines.

Hmm... I wonder if there are any Federal laws pertaining to individuals or entities attacking the military or the airlines... hmmm

I think these hackers are going to get SWATted soon (probably the reason why Garmin is tight lipped on the solution.)
 
Information systems are known targets for cyber crime. Sadly, who the "real" criminals are is now the subject of political identity.
 
rangerreece said:
I just texted the article to my commander, and some standardization and maintenance personnel. Our current database in our military aircraft goes till August 13th beyond that we can’t fly instruments nor can the airlines.

Hmm... I wonder if there are any Federal laws pertaining to individuals or entities attacking the military or the airlines... hmmm

I think these hackers are going to get SWATted soon (probably the reason why Garmin is tight lipped on the solution.)
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I think 18 USC Section 875(d) might be applicable Reece:

"Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
 
ExGMan said:
I think 18 USC Section 875(d) might be applicable Reece:

"Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
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Ya gonna file those charges with which district magistrate in Russia, Syria or Iran?
 
36654 said:
Ya gonna file those charges with which district magistrate in Russia, Syria or Iran?
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Exactly the problem. It is extremely difficult to identify hackers, and when possible they are almost (not always) out of reach - especially if they are working for bad actor nation states. I don't know if Garman falls into some kind of national security context which might bring more resources to bear then they can muster, but even so this is another case of the dangers of relying on any cloud based services because so many organizations seem susceptible to attack.
 
GREGFEELER said:
Exactly the problem. It is extremely difficult to identify hackers, and when possible they are almost (not always) out of reach - especially if they are working for bad actor nation states. I don't know if Garman falls into some kind of national security context which might bring more resources to bear then they can muster, but even so this is another case of the dangers of relying on any cloud based services because so many organizations seem susceptible to attack.
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Cloud based or web connected. Given an opportunity, the hackers will exploit it. It's how they make their money.

Seriously, web-based software isn't the answer for a lot of things.
 
I buy my GPSs used, usually on eBay or elsewhere on the web. I almost never bother to update them because updating does next to nothing advantageous for how I usually use them. I want routing from Texas to Seattle or some such, or simply want to track my progress toward a waypoint in time and distance. I almost never, ever, need information for a place in a new subdivision so map updates are usually more trouble than they are worth.

Most of the time Garmin no longer supports what is a perfectly fine usable GPS for me. I had the latest and greatest back in the 1990s with my IIIplus and V. I have been a few models behind ever since. Our Zumo 660s serve our purposes quite well. They are navigation tools.

I use Mapsource to save, store, and upload and download waypoints. I don't do routing other than to a waypoint and maybe one or two via points. I have never used BaseCamp and don't need or want the anguish.

Points of interest are somewhat out of date but generally Google Maps works fine for finding motels and restaurants and other things and Gas Buddy finds gas stations and their recent prices. And since I usually pay a few tens of dollars to buy one, when one needs to be upgraded I'm not out much.
 
The bummer about this attack is that it also took out the traffic and weather portions on my Smartlink-enabled GPS (which pulls data from my phone), I could have used it the other day to circumnavigate some nasty traffic...
 
Download the “Waze” app on your phone.
It’s free and users contribute so you can chose the best route based on real time data (traffic / cops / roadblocks / construction etc).
 
flhfxd said:
Download the “Waze” app on your phone.
It’s free and users contribute so you can chose the best route based on real time data (traffic / cops / roadblocks / construction etc).
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Someday, that will get whacked, too.
 
Back a bunch of years ago our local adventure riding forum was hacked. It took x number of months for the owner to get past it and he had to rebuild the whole site. A few senior members left and new folks came in but it has never been the same by a long shot.
 
Our local club had a major breach which I discovered, rearranged, reset, cleaned out and reset the initial login security question.
They were unhappy with my choice for the security question.
I gave up :banghead
OM
 
Omega Man said:
Our local club had a major breach which I discovered, rearranged, reset, cleaned out and reset the initial login security question.
They were unhappy with my choice for the security question.
I gave up :banghead
OM
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Must have been a good one! Will you share it?
 
PGlaves said:
I buy my GPSs used, usually on eBay or elsewhere on the web. I almost never bother to update them because updating does next to nothing advantageous for how I usually use them. I want routing from Texas to Seattle or some such, or simply want to track my progress toward a waypoint in time and distance. I almost never, ever, need information for a place in a new subdivision so map updates are usually more trouble than they are worth.

Most of the time Garmin no longer supports what is a perfectly fine usable GPS for me. I had the latest and greatest back in the 1990s with my IIIplus and V. I have been a few models behind ever since. Our Zumo 660s serve our purposes quite well. They are navigation tools.

I use Mapsource to save, store, and upload and download waypoints. I don't do routing other than to a waypoint and maybe one or two via points. I have never used BaseCamp and don't need or want the anguish.

Points of interest are somewhat out of date but generally Google Maps works fine for finding motels and restaurants and other things and Gas Buddy finds gas stations and their recent prices. And since I usually pay a few tens of dollars to buy one, when one needs to be upgraded I'm not out much.
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I concur about purchasing a used GPS. I got a Nuvi 1450LM from eBay about six weeks ago for $35. It comes with lifetime map updates which only required I plug it into my computer and run Garmin Base Camp or the Web Updater. It fits the dedicated Nuvi RAM mount I got some years ago and the touch screen works with gloves.
 
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