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    Has anyone heard if BMW has started production again? I know it was supposed to be in April, but no word on website.
    I am ordering a fully loaded F900xr.
    thanks!

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    Probably best to contact you dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottaxner View Post
    Has anyone heard if BMW has started production again? I know it was supposed to be in April, but no word on website.
    I am ordering a fully loaded F900xr.
    thanks!
    I'm not sure where final assembly is done on that model, the engine is produced in China.
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    Don't tell me we are going to have another Chinese Beemer

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    Quote Originally Posted by k1200lt00 View Post
    Don't tell me we are going to have another Chinese Beemer
    The F750/850GS models, as well as the new F900 models, all use chinese designed/built engines manufactured by Loncin. So you get a Bavarian bike with a chinese engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k1200lt00 View Post
    Don't tell me we are going to have another Chinese Beemer
    Yes, but thus far no extraordinary premature cam wear or leaking brakes as with the non Chinese 1250's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motodan View Post
    Yes, but thus far no extraordinary premature cam wear or leaking brakes as with the non Chinese 1250's.
    Stator, starter and brake issues like the Indian products?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    Stator, stater and brake issues like the Indian products?
    None on mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motodan View Post
    None on mine.
    Lets see. K1600 transmissions. K1600 water pumps. R1250 brake calipers. R1200 shocks. K1200 final drives. R1150GS final drives. R1200 and R1250 camshafts. So how many of these were made in China? How many made in India? Clue - the answer is, as far as I can find out = zero. The possibility is that German exceptionalism is nowadays as elusive as American exceptionalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Lets see. K1600 transmissions. K1600 water pumps. R1250 brake calipers. R1200 shocks. K1200 final drives. R1150GS final drives. R1200 and R1240 camshafts. So how many of these were made in China? How many made in India? Clue - the answer is, as far as I can find out = zero. The possibility is that German exceptionalism is nowadays as elusive as American exceptionalism.
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    Many companies have problems with production. The 1st 1500 or so Chinese f-twins produced by Loncin were recalled due to lubrication issues (Europe sales). India’s ByBre brake calipers forced a stop sale on bikes and scooters in the US.

    I wouldn’t be concerned about country of origin, but as a consumer do expect a lower price point for products sourced from low-cost labor markets. A Loncin 750 motorcycle might be a very good value.

    Parts for their smaller engines are very affordable:

    http://kazumausaonline.com/chinese-a...-c-145_97.html
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    Was the engine designed by Loncin or BMW?

    Big difference between Chinese designed vs Chinese manufactured (i.e. iPhone).

    I have 3k on my F850GSA. No issues to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimsum07 View Post
    Was the engine designed by Loncin or BMW?

    Big difference between Chinese designed vs Chinese manufactured (i.e. iPhone).

    I have 3k on my F850GSA. No issues to date.
    To the best of my knowledge, BMW does not have a parallel twin design of its own. Previous parallel twins (i.e. the 800 cc engine) were purchased from Rotax in Austria.

    My understanding is that the 850/900 engine is entirely a chinese Loncin design.

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    So a new poster asks if anyone knows if BMW production has resumed and we almost immediately veer off into where things are made and the resulting quality, or lack thereof, of those products. Surprisingly, we haven't heard back from the OP.

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