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    I've heard the same with our new, local (140 miles away), dealer in Boise. The newest bike in my barn is twenty years old. Glad I'm still connected to the dealer I worked for in the '80's (650 miles away), and they still work on /2's and older, and have more parts in stock than any dealer I've ever visited. Most thankful that I learned to do my own work from several master BMW mechanics at Ozzie's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skibumwi View Post
    I'm not sure it applies to other BMW motorcycles, but I suspect it does...

    These plastic tabs on the trim pieces for my '16 RT are really making me wonder if I should do any work on my bike. I KNOW where they are, I am VERY careful about working with them - but they still snap off!! Finished putting some LED lights on the bike, got it all buttoned up and then , Horror upon Horrors, I see a small piece plastic painted in my bikes color laying on the ground! ARRRGGGHHH.

    I have now broken two of them but at least I found the pieces. Thank you JB Weld for making such a a fine adhesive.

    Please BMW - Stop using these tabs or find a way to reinforce them!!

    I don't expect to find such shoddy design on a motorcycle of this quality.


    Ski
    I have some experience with these tabs and how fragile they are on other bikes throughout the years. Here is a little tip that prevented me from breaking them during re-assembly: lubricate them so they slide in easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e.ydoate@gmail.com View Post
    I have some experience with these tabs and how fragile they are on other bikes throughout the years. Here is a little tip that prevented me from breaking them during re-assembly: lubricate them so they slide in easier.
    What do you use for lube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    What do you use for lube?
    I suggest silicone spray both for the tabs and also the plastic locating plugs. When the spray dries it's not gooey so it won't attract and hold dirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stooie View Post
    I suggest silicone spray both for the tabs and also the plastic locating plugs. When the spray dries it's not gooey so it won't attract and hold dirt.
    Sounds reasonable......
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    Quote Originally Posted by cap View Post
    +1

    I keep trying them every few years, hoping for a change in attitude. I tried to buy a new 2018 R1200RT from them, but ended up buying one from Gateway in St. Louis, and riding it home. Saved me the aggravation.
    Cap, why not Lakewood or Denver? I've used Foothills for a couple of service jobs and they were fair and straight w/ me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncpbmw1953 View Post
    Cap, why not Lakewood or Denver?
    I actually bought my first GS from Lakewood in 2001. And I think the dealer in Fort Collins is owned by the the same family now (not then). But driving to Denver and back for me requires a few hours. And negotiating a good price is difficult when the dealer knows that. Neither of the dealers you mention would negotiate over the phone when I was shopping a couple of years ago. But Gateway in St. Louis were offering fair prices published online, and then were very helpful over the phone. My total time invested in reaching a deal with Gateway was about 5 minutes over the phone with Bob Honz. I paid about $100 for a one-way plane ticket to St. Louis, and another ~$150 for gas and lodging on the ride home. And still came away with substantial savings compared to the local options.

    And having said that, I would still prefer to shop locally if the local dealer had half a clue about customer interactions. I had been keeping tabs on the inventory at my local dealer for a year, waiting for the last R1200RT models to drop in price as the new R1250RT hit the showroom. At the very end of the season, I visited my local dealer 3 times within a week, asking each time for their best price for a new R1200RT that had been on their showroom floor for a long time. I spoke directly with the sales manager, and made it clear that I was going to buy a 1200RT in the very near time period. I wanted a tailcase, too. And the manager never even quoted me a price. I went by myself once. I brought my wife with me once. I had a friend drive me once with my checkbook in hand, so that I could ride the bike home if I could reach a deal. I gave up. And still, before I committed to buying the motorcycle from Gateway, I called the manager one last time. He still didn't quote a price to me -- but he did try to make me feel guilty about even considering a deal from another dealer. He said, "If you buy somewhere else, it will always be awkward when you bring your bike in for service."

    I can't repeat what I was thinking when I heard that. But suffice it to say that I had a new motorcycle within a few minutes of ending that call. And I would buy another moto from Gateway in a heartbeat.

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    I did the same when I bought my new 2018 1200RT last year. The new 1250RT's had just come out and BMW authorized a $5000 rebate to dealers who wanted to move any remaining 1200RT stock off their showroom floor. I asked both my local dealers about it...neither was interested, so I wound up buying a $100 one way ticket to Phoenix and bought one there. Rode it to SoCal, just enough mileage to have its first service done at Burbank BMW, and used the bike as a Moto marshal at the Amgen Tour of California before riding home. And I have NO qualms about taking it to the local dealer for any service that is beyond my abilities. If they wanted to sell me a bike they should have been willing to negotiate-

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