OK, These Plastic Tabs have officially pi$$ed me off...

skibumwi · May 1, 2020

Tangent Alert!!

It seems that there is some sense to the varying depth of the "shoulders" related to the number of layers of tupperware the screw hold together.

Short Shoulder - One layer
Med Shoulder - 2 layers
Long Shoulder - 3 layers

No shoulder screws are usually not coming into contact with tupperware and are in places that are not visible once the bike is fully assembled.

I know this is a bit simplified but I think it holds true for most of the screws.

My question is: How can BMW get away with charging almost $3/screw, other than the fact that they are BMW logo'd?

Ski

36654 · May 1, 2020

Lee said:
I'm not so OCD that I color code, but I like that idea

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My apologies. It's the rugs that are color coded.........

52184 · May 1, 2020

I’m colorblind and too cheap for Tupperware, so I depend upon old muffin and biscuit pans that I pick up at the local thrift store. A lot of old cookie sheets and shallow baking pans in the mix, too.

Best,
DeVern

akbeemer · May 1, 2020

I have a 2017 GSA and Annie has 2017 GS. I use a Sharpie to label each hole that is covered when assembled, with a code for the fastener that goes in the hole. For example SC for a short collared screw. If the hole is visible after assembly I put a piece of painter's tape adjacent to the hole and write the code on the tape. I must admit that despite my best efforts I probably have the wrong fasteners in some holes. It doesn't appear to cause an issue so long as collared screws are put where they belong, and those holes are easy to identify. I am sometimes mystfied why different length fasteners are used in some holes. In the overwhelming majority of the holes a medium length fastner would work just fine.

I know a couple of people who have a parts diagram enlarged and pasted to cardboard. There is a hole by every fastener displayed on the diagram where the place fasteners as they are removed during disassembly. I have not followed this path; my tendancy towards OCD is at times overcome by my laziness.

36654 · May 1, 2020

GTRider said:
I’m colorblind and too cheap for Tupperware, so I depend upon old muffin and biscuit pans that I pick up at the local thrift store. A lot of old cookie sheets and shallow baking pans in the mix, too.

Best,
DeVern

My father was colorblind. I never knew why battery cables were black and red until I was in college...........

ncpbmw1953 · May 2, 2020

ebell said:
Along with the tabs breaking, and a headlight bulb that usually has to be replaced in a NAPA parking lot miles from home... The work involved with changing the air filter on my 2016 RT is a little excessive.

Every time I dutifully swapped in a new air filter w/ the 12K service I could not help but notice there was no measurable restriction in these 'dirty' air filters and wondered why I was throwing these away. I am doing every 24K miles now which should be ample. If I lived in a dust bowl that would be a different story perhaps.

stooie · May 2, 2020

ncpbmw1953 said:
Every time I dutifully swapped in a new air filter w/ the 12K service I could not help but notice there was no measurable restriction in these 'dirty' air filters and wondered why I was throwing these away. I am doing every 24K miles now which should be ample. If I lived in a dust bowl that would be a different story perhaps.

I'n not saying you're wrong but I'm the nerdy type who wants to know: how did you determine "no measurable restriction?

pglaves · May 2, 2020

stooie said:
I'n not saying you're wrong but I'm the nerdy type who wants to know: how did you determine "no measurable restriction?

Can't attest to that filter specifically but do recall tests don by Don Eilenberger (I think it was Don) with K75/K100 filters. He used some type of vacuum setup and found that a K filter 50% obstructed with Saran Wrap still passed more air than needed by the engine. And the dirtiest one he could find passed even more air than that. On my K75s riding paved roads almost all the time unless in a campground I change every 50,000 miles or so.

PoorUB · May 2, 2020

skibumwi said:
My question is: How can BMW get away with charging almost $3/screw, other than the fact that they are BMW logo'd?

Ski

Because they have us by the balls!

Where else are you going to buy those screws?

BC1100S · May 2, 2020

PoorUB said:
Because they have us by the balls!

Where else are you going to buy those screws?

Oh please....

Apparently you guys have never bought Ducati parts.

e.g. Rubber washer that goes under the valve cover securing nuts - $8.41 each. And you need 12. Recommended they be changed every time you check valves. That's 100 bucks just for rubber washers. :banghead

I do them every second checkup.

36654 · May 3, 2020

BC1100S said:
Oh please....

Apparently you guys have never bought Ducati parts.

e.g. Rubber washer that goes under the valve cover securing nuts - $8.41 each. And you need 12. Recommended they be changed every time you check valves. That's 100 bucks just for rubber washers.

I do them every second checkup.

BC1100S,

For possible future reference, this thread shows the location of the plastic tabs on your R1250RS panels,
https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthrea...-Cradle-from-a-R1200RS&highlight=r1200RS+tabs

BC1100S · May 3, 2020

36654 said:
..... this thread shows the location of the plastic tabs on your R1250RS panels,
https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthrea...-Cradle-from-a-R1200RS&highlight=r1200RS+tabs

Someone needs to post a picture of the sadist who designed this attachment system. Also have him listed on local community message boards in case he moves into your neighbourhood. There's no telling what other horrible crimes this person is capable of.

pglaves · May 3, 2020

BC1100S said:
Someone needs to post a picture of the sadist who designed this attachment system. Also have him listed on local community message boards in case he moves into your neighbourhood. There's no telling what other horrible crimes this person is capable of.

It was the intern one afternoon during Oktoberfest. :banghead

36654 · May 3, 2020

BC1100S said:
Someone needs to post a picture of the sadist who designed this attachment system. Also have him listed on local community message boards in case he moves into your neighbourhood. There's no telling what other horrible crimes this person is capable of.

Desktop computer cases have some similar tab in slot arrangements. Of course, computers are disposable items...

akbeemer · May 3, 2020

BC1100S said:
Someone needs to post a picture of the sadist who designed this attachment system. Also have him listed on local community message boards in case he moves into your neighbourhood. There's no telling what other horrible crimes this person is capable of.

Most likely he/she is now two or three rungs higher on the corporate ladder with BMW or some other automotive corporation. Resume reads, in part: "Developed innovative mounting system for critical body components on technology leading motorcycle that resulted in a savings in manufacturing costs of 0.021% per unit and an increase in parts sales of 2.54% per unit after initial sale."

pglaves · May 3, 2020

akbeemer said:
Most likely he/she is now two or three rungs higher on the corporate ladder with BMW or some other automotive corporation. Resume reads, in part: "Developed innovative mounting system for critical body components on technology leading motorcycle that resulted in a savings in manufacturing costs of 0.021% per unit and an increase in parts sales of 2.54% per unit after initial sale."

skibumwi · May 3, 2020

akbeemer said:
Most likely he/she is now two or three rungs higher on the corporate ladder with BMW or some other automotive corporation. Resume reads, in part: "Developed innovative mounting system for critical body components on technology leading motorcycle that resulted in a savings in manufacturing costs of 0.021% per unit and an increase in parts sales of 2.54% per unit after initial sale."

FINALLY!! Someone explains it!!!

Thanks,
:banghead

stevenrankin · May 4, 2020

Guess what?

Desktop computer cases have some similar tab in slot arrangements. Of course, computers are disposable items...

Guess what gang! So is your motorcycle!

BMW doesn't want customers to be like me. I bought one BMW bike in 1984 new and never another. NO! they want people to buy every three years or 36K miles!

Those of us who keep bikes beyond this point are lucky they even make spare parts available at Bite My Wallet prices.

How many of you out there in rider land have found your dealer has cut off working on your bike due to its age?

Sorry, this may be for another thread and may have been discussed on another thread but I will say it anyway. When my local dealer closed due to BMW's boutique dealer upgrade, I was told by the new flagship dealer, "We really don't work on your bike", it is too old and you did not buy it from us".

Build them fast, cheap and sell them for top dollar. NOTHING else matters. St.

pglaves · May 4, 2020

My dealer works on /2s and anything newer.

lee · May 4, 2020

PGlaves said:
My dealer works on /2s and anything newer.

Here's a picture of Bob before he retired.

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