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Good place to "stash" the spare key?
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flyhi2cfar
#102452 Sometimes Hangared... But Always Aimed Out
This is in the ballpark... but a swing and a miss!
...At least on the 2015 R1200GSw.
From my last post on previous page, I stood there pondering my dilemma while thinking of options and what may be the limitations.
So with the bike running, OR with the ignition "engaged/on"... you cannot open the Fuel Latch.
The ignition must be OFF... A very nice safety measure.
What I was misunderstanding was this erroneous thought:
I had never opened my Fuel Latch, unless that Key FOB was within electronic proximity, just like starting the bike.
And I no longer had a functional Key Fob!
I was about 2,000mi from home... and many miles from a MOTORRAD dealer, standing there processing my options on a Sunday morning.
Out came the Owners Manual where I was relieved to find the answer.
After you "disengage the ignition", you have a short period of time to Open the Fuel Latch.
I think the Canbus allows 90 seconds.
I had never tried my Emergency Key for operation, so I was determined to reach civilization before exploring if my system functioned properly.
Then I thought... Would I be the first guy to travel multiple days using this method? Is the battery still good in the Emergency Key?
Is there even a battery in it? How many times can I use it?
I won't say it was a million questions that crossed my mind while riding toward the States... but it was close!
You can bet I now routinely check the system operation by using my Emergency Key.
...At least on the 2015 R1200GSw.
From my last post on previous page, I stood there pondering my dilemma while thinking of options and what may be the limitations.
So with the bike running, OR with the ignition "engaged/on"... you cannot open the Fuel Latch.
The ignition must be OFF... A very nice safety measure.
What I was misunderstanding was this erroneous thought:
I had never opened my Fuel Latch, unless that Key FOB was within electronic proximity, just like starting the bike.
And I no longer had a functional Key Fob!
I was about 2,000mi from home... and many miles from a MOTORRAD dealer, standing there processing my options on a Sunday morning.
Out came the Owners Manual where I was relieved to find the answer.
After you "disengage the ignition", you have a short period of time to Open the Fuel Latch.
I think the Canbus allows 90 seconds.
I had never tried my Emergency Key for operation, so I was determined to reach civilization before exploring if my system functioned properly.
Then I thought... Would I be the first guy to travel multiple days using this method? Is the battery still good in the Emergency Key?
Is there even a battery in it? How many times can I use it?
I won't say it was a million questions that crossed my mind while riding toward the States... but it was close!
You can bet I now routinely check the system operation by using my Emergency Key.
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lee
Debbie's Servant
That's right, I forgot you need to turn the ignition back off.
If you wait longer than 90 seconds and the cap doesn't open it will open on the 2nd try.
flyhi2cfar
#102452 Sometimes Hangared... But Always Aimed Out
This is something that also happens frequently on my bike... the requirement of a "second lift" to make it happen.
And back to the OP's question and ideas for the Spare Key.
I have always had mine on the bike, with other spare keys in the tank bag or top box... but not hidden.
And back to the OP's question and ideas for the Spare Key.
I have always had mine on the bike, with other spare keys in the tank bag or top box... but not hidden.
NormMcElvany
New member
spare key
Me too. I safety pin the key in my riding pants front pocket. Since I never ride without ATGATT, I've always got the key handy.
Duct tape will dry out and let loose when it gets old.
I keep my plastic emergency key in my pants pocket.
I still remember to wear pants when I leave the house
Me too. I safety pin the key in my riding pants front pocket. Since I never ride without ATGATT, I've always got the key handy.
flyhi2cfar
#102452 Sometimes Hangared... But Always Aimed Out
...another crappy weather day here in the "near midwest" and not really south or east (Cincinnati),
allowed me some garage time looking for the perfect location to conceal and zip tie (securely attach) the Emergency Spare Key on the 15' R1200GSw.
There's no really best place, there are tradeoffs anywhere I found barely acceptable. And those were generally near the upper fork tubes on the fairing.
It would be difficult to do any better than your wallet or riding suit.
I tried this with my 2018 RT, but probably did it wrong. So you are saying after you shut off the motorcycle with the main power switch, bike is off, you have a few seconds when the full filler is unlocked? I couldn't find an explanation in the owners manual.
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flyhi2cfar
#102452 Sometimes Hangared... But Always Aimed Out
Yes; the information is in the section under "Riding"... and Refueling Procedure.
It's Chapter 5, pg. 91 in my 15' GS OM. I'm "keyless ride", and version #2 states you have 2 minutes to open fuel filer cap.
akbeemer
SURVIVOR
BMW must have realized that you old-timers on the 15 models need a bit more time to get things done. I'd need to double check, but I believe on our 17s you only get 30 seconds to open the fuel cap.
lee
Debbie's Servant
There is no battery in the emergency key.
The battery in the fob is only needed to give it a greater range.
flyhi2cfar
#102452 Sometimes Hangared... But Always Aimed Out
gtrider
52184
Yes. You need to appear in person at your dealership with photo ID and proof of ownership of the bike—like a title. Dealer can then forward the info to BMW and get you a replacement emergency key. Turnaround time is very quick— a matter of days. Cost is around $70.
Best,
DeVern
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Thanks very much!
Looking forward to the bike which should arrive next week.
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LOL!!! this thread is a testament to the gross over complication by technology of the simple tasks of starting a motorcycle and opening a gas cap...
bring back "insert metal key in lock. turn. done."
I think it is less complication. 99.99% of the time I don't even need a key! Sorry you have to dig through your pockets, insert the key and twist, then push the starter button. I just hop on, hit the power switch, then the starter button. The only time I need the key is if something fails, which rarely happens.
flyhi2cfar
#102452 Sometimes Hangared... But Always Aimed Out
Sometimes it takes me 30 seconds to remember why I've decided to stop... And I'm parked in front of the pumps!
lee
Debbie's Servant
bring back "insert metal key in lock. turn. done."
I want a gas cap without a lock.
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